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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: High vm-exit latencies during kvm boot-up/shutdown
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:52:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <471F7865.7070506@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471F7143.8040406-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>     
>>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I ran
>>>>>
>>>>> user/kvmctl user/test/bootstrap user/test/smp.flat
>>>>>
>>>>> with the busy loop hacked into bootstrap, but I got no latency spots
>>>>> this time. And what should I look for in the output of kvm_stat?
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> The first numeric column is the total number of exits; the second is the 
>>>> rate of change (per second).  For a spinning workload, both irq_exits 
>>>> and exits rate should equal the timer frequency.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> It matches roughly, but this isn't surprising given the lack of latency
>>> peaks in this scenario.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> Okay, that's expected.  But I really can't think what causes the latency 
>> spike you see running the bios code. 300 microseconds is enough for 3000 
>> cache misses.  No instruction can cause so many except rep movs and 
>> friends, and these are supposed to be preemptible.
>>
>> You might try isolating it by adding code to output markers to some I/O 
>> port and scattering it throughout the bios.  A binary search should find 
>> the problem spot quickly.
>>
>>     
>
> Got it! It's wbinvd from smm_init in rombios32.c! Anyone any comments on
> this?
>   

Ha!  A real life 300usec instruction!

Unfortunately, it cannot be trapped on Intel (it can be trapped on 
AMD).  Looks like a minor hole in VT, as a guest can generate very high 
latencies this way.

For our bios, we can remove it, but there's no way to ensure an 
untrusted guest doesn't use it.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-24 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-22 23:09 High vm-exit latencies during kvm boot-up/shutdown Jan Kiszka
     [not found] ` <471D2D8C.1080202-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  1:05   ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]     ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02441127-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  6:38       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]         ` <471D96DC.7070809-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  7:46           ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]             ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A024414D9-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  9:08               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                 ` <471DBA1A.2080108-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23  9:46                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <471DC311.2050003-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 13:30                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                         ` <471DF76B.7040001-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:19                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <471E02F7.6080408-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:41                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                 ` <471E0818.6060405-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:44                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2007-10-23 15:26                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <471E1290.2000208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 15:59                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                         ` <471E1A77.90808-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:14                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                             ` <471E1DCD.5040301-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:31                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                 ` <471E21D7.3000309-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:38                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                     ` <471E238E.6040005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 16:56                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                         ` <471E27B0.1090001-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 17:05                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                             ` <471E29C5.1060807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  8:37                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                 ` <471F0464.4000704-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  8:52                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                     ` <471F07C0.8040104-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  9:16                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                         ` <471F0D57.3020209-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24  9:33                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                             ` <471F116D.9080903-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24 16:22                                                                               ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <471F7143.8040406-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-24 16:52                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <471F7865.7070506-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-25 17:50                                                                                       ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <4720D76D.7070300-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-25 18:02                                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <4720DA42.6090300-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  1:41                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482827-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  8:20                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <4721A350.7030409-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  8:32                                                                                                       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482B96-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:03                                                                                                           ` Jan Kiszka
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <4721AD49.7010405-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:18                                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482BE4-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:37                                                                                                                   ` Dor Laor
2007-10-26 12:21                                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                                     ` <4721DBE4.6040801-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29  8:32                                                                                                                       ` Dong, Eddie
2007-10-26  9:25                                                                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-26  9:18                                                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <4721B0FD.9020006-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:36                                                                                                               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02482BFE-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-26  9:58                                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-23 14:43                               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                                 ` <1193150619.8343.21.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-23 14:50                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2007-10-23  8:16           ` Avi Kivity

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