From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Zachary Amsden <zach-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
avi-i/T1Zxg06OZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
Dan Hecht <dhecht-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Glauber de Oliveira Costa
<gcosta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Glauber de Oliveira Costa
<glauber-aMxvdZfKFXomYvmMESoHnA@public.gmane.org>,
--cc-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Garrett Smith <garrett-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:52:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47266431.1010500@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071029224852.GA27547-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Zachary Amsden <zach-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:10 -0300, Glauber de Oliveira Costa wrote:
>>
>>> From: Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glauber-aMxvdZfKFXomYvmMESoHnA@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> tsc is very good time source (when it does not have drifts, does not
>>> change it's frequency, i.e. when it works), so it should have its rating
>>> raised to a value greater than, or equal 400.
>>>
>>> Since it's being a tendency among paravirt clocksources to use values
>>> around 400, we should declare tsc as even better: So we use 500.
>>>
>> Why is the TSC better than a paravirt clocksource? In our case this
>> is definitely inaccurate. Paravirt clocksources should be preferred
>> to TSC, and both must be made available in hardware for platforms
>> which do not support paravirt.
>>
>
> if it's inaccurate why are you exposing it to the guest then? Native
> only uses the TSC if it's safe and accurate to do so.
>
It is used as part of the Xen clocksource as a short term extrapolator,
with correction parameters supplied by the hypervisor. It should never
be used directly.
J
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-29 23:10 [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating Glauber de Oliveira Costa
[not found] ` <11936994092607-git-send-email-gcosta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 1:26 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0710292315280.3186-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 2:39 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <200710301339.23628.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071030073736.GA21843-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 10:52 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 12:13 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:42 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1193697734.9793.86.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029224852.GA27547-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-10-29 22:55 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029225528.GA31293-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <47266A00.4040408-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:21 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029232140.GA10518-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-30 0:45 ` Ian Pratt
[not found] ` <8A87A9A84C201449A0C56B728ACF491E34C5F5-sZfJFUT1i4lUWNNKjvdVWtlxNDNUtst69dF7HbQ/qKg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:13 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1193699638.9793.97.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 12:02 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
[not found] ` <47271D4A.8030707-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 17:58 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <20071029230213.GA1982-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:24 ` Dan Hecht
[not found] ` <47266B90.8000008-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 4:24 ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-30 7:14 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <1193698505.9793.90.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 11:59 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
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