From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Dan Hecht <dhecht-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Zachary Amsden <zach-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org,
avi-i/T1Zxg06OZWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
Glauber de Oliveira Costa
<glauber-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Glauber de Oliveira Costa
<gcosta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
--cc-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Garrett Smith <garrett-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:24:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4726B218.8010101@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47266B90.8000008-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Dan Hecht wrote:
> Not really. In the case hardware TSC is perfect, the paravirt time
> counter can be implemented directly in terms of hardware TSC; there is
> no loss in optimization. This is done transparently. And virtual TSC
> can be implemented this way too.
>
> The real improvement that a paravirt clocksource offers over the TSC
> clocksource is that the guest does not need to measure the TSC frequency
> itself against some other constant frequency source (which is
> problematic on a virtual machine). Instead, the paravirt clocksource
> queries the hypervisor for the frequency of the counter. As you know,
> with clocksource style kernels, it's important to get this frequency
> correct, or else the guest will have long-term time drift.
>
>
In addition, a paravirt clocksource can compensate for events like vcpu
migration to another host cpu. So I agree: a paravirt clocksource is
always better than or equal to the tsc.
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-29 23:10 [PATCH] raise tsc clocksource rating Glauber de Oliveira Costa
[not found] ` <11936994092607-git-send-email-gcosta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-10-29 22:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 1:26 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0710292315280.3186-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 2:39 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <200710301339.23628.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 7:37 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071030073736.GA21843-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 10:52 ` Rusty Russell
2007-10-30 12:13 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-29 22:42 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1193697734.9793.86.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:48 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029224852.GA27547-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 22:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-29 22:55 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029225528.GA31293-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <47266A00.4040408-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:21 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20071029232140.GA10518-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-30 0:45 ` Ian Pratt
[not found] ` <8A87A9A84C201449A0C56B728ACF491E34C5F5-sZfJFUT1i4lUWNNKjvdVWtlxNDNUtst69dF7HbQ/qKg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 7:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 22:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-10-29 23:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-29 23:13 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1193699638.9793.97.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-10-30 12:02 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
[not found] ` <47271D4A.8030707-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 17:58 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <20071029230213.GA1982-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-29 23:24 ` Dan Hecht
[not found] ` <47266B90.8000008-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 4:24 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-10-30 7:14 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <1193698505.9793.90.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-30 11:59 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-30 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
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