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From: Dor Laor <dor.laor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] virtio block driver for QEMU (v2)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:21:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4738452F.8070502@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47375731.7020007-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Dor Laor wrote:
>>>   
>> In general I think we need to add another feature or even version 
>> number ( I know you guys hate it).
>> The reason is - Let's say you dont change functionality but change 
>> the irq protocol (for example the isr won't be zeroed on read), then 
>> an old
>> guest driver wouldn't know it runs on a new host version and will 
>> have its irq line pulled up.
>> So I suggest adding a capability of VIRTIO_ISR_CLEAR_XXX or adding a 
>> version number.
>> Comments?
>
> I don't think we'll actually change the ISR protocol.  I think it's 
> the best that it can actually be.  However, if we do need to change 
> the ABI for some reason, I think the right thing to do is just use a 
> new device ID (since it's effectively a new device).
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
Changing the devid is acceptable and much more easier then backward 
compatibility support, I prefer it too.
Note that there are some disadvantages when changing the devid - For 
example,
if you installed an old device drivers in the guest kernel and after a 
while you bring the guest down,
upgrade the kvm host version and bring the guest back up.
If it has a new device id (and since the abi is not maintained the 
driver won't match VENDOR=virtio; DEVID=*),
then the guest won't have a driver for the new device.
In that case I think a guest agent can switch to fully virtualized 
device and afterwards install the driver automatically.
This is what we do in our production environment.
Regards,
Dor

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-12 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-11  3:20 [PATCH 0/6] QEMU support for virtio (v2) Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <11947512401155-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 1/6] Basic virtio infrastructure for QEMU (v2) Anthony Liguori
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 2/6] virtio block driver " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <11947512432057-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11 17:24       ` Dor Laor
     [not found]         ` <47373ADF.3000607-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11 19:25           ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <47375731.7020007-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12 12:21               ` Dor Laor [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <4738452F.8070502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12 23:25                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <4738E102.2050200-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-13  0:28                       ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                         ` <200711131128.44492.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27  9:47                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-12 15:02       ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]         ` <20071112150211.GA14436-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12 15:05           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47386BA9.8050000-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-12 23:26               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 3/6] 9p virtio transport " Anthony Liguori
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 4/6] virtio network driver " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <11947512454030-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11 17:31       ` Dor Laor
     [not found]         ` <47373C6B.7090102-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11 19:29           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 5/6] Remove hypercall driver (v2) Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <1194751246584-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-11 17:25       ` Dor Laor
2007-11-27 12:28       ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-11  3:20   ` [PATCH 6/6] Provide a mechanism to build virtio drivers as modules (v2) Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <11947512473786-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 12:30       ` Avi Kivity

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