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From: Dor Laor <dor.laor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi-7k6+44Jx4zn6gbPvEgmw2w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernelsprior to tsc sync cleanup
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:04:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47694F35.6070401@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712192225.53748.amit.shah-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Amit Shah wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:02:06 Glauber de Oliveira Costa wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2007 12:27 PM, Avi Kivity <avi-7k6+44Jx4zn6gbPvEgmw2w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > > * Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > >> Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > >>>  Testing shows wrmsr and rdtsc function normally.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'll try pinning the vcpus to cpus and see if that helps.
> > > >>
> > > >> It does.
> > > >
> > > > do we let the guest read the physical CPU's TSC? That would be 
> trouble.
> > >
> > > vmx (and svm) allow us to add an offset to the physical tsc.  We 
> set it
> > > on startup to -tsc (so that an rdtsc on boot would return 0), and
> > > massage it on vcpu migration so that guest rdtsc is monotonic.
> > >
> > > The net effect is that tsc on a vcpu can experience large forward 
> jumps
> > > and changes in rate, but no negative jumps.
> >
> > Changes in rate does not sound good. It's possibly what's screwing up
> > my paravirt clock implementation in smp.
>
> Do you mean in the case of VM migration, or just starting them on a single
> host?
>
It's the cpu preemption stuff on local host and not VM migration
>
> > Since the host updates guest time prior to putting vcpu to run, two
> > vcpus that start running at different times will have different system
> > values.
> >
> > Now if the vcpu that started running later probes the time first,
> > we'll se the time going backwards. A constant tsc rate is the only way
> > around
> > my limited mind sees around the problem (besides, obviously, _not_
> > making the system time per-vcpu).
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-19 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-18 17:20 Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior to tsc sync cleanup Avi Kivity
     [not found] ` <47680173.6060606-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-18 22:19   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <20071218221930.GA26109-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19  6:33       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <4768BB43.1000609-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 11:19           ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 11:39             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <47690304.1090903-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 14:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-19 14:27                   ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <47692A47.4040803-7k6+44Jx4zn6gbPvEgmw2w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 15:32                       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-12-19 15:41                         ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <47693B9D.7080809-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-20 10:34                             ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]                         ` <5d6222a80712190732h515a63e6y49c64c0f572f044-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 16:55                           ` Amit Shah
     [not found]                             ` <200712192225.53748.amit.shah-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 17:04                               ` Dor Laor [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <47694F35.6070401-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 17:09                                   ` Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernelsprior " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <20071219140624.GF21282-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 14:53                     ` Guest kernel hangs in smp kvm for older kernels prior " Avi Kivity
2007-12-19 15:09                       ` [kvm-devel] " Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                         ` <20071219150938.GA15267-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-12-19 15:21                           ` Avi Kivity

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