From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
Daniel J Blueman
<daniel.blueman-xqY44rlHlBpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: mmu notifiers
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:28:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <478A03D8.9050308@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080113120939.GA3221-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Robin Holt wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 09:51:56PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> Christoph Lameter wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually sharing memory is possible even without this patch; one simply
>>>> mmap()s a file into the address space of both guests. Or are you
>>>> referring to
>>>> something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A file from where? If a file is read by two guests then they will have
>>> distinct page structs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Two kvm instances mmap() the file (from anywhere) into the guest address
>> space. That memory is shared, and will be backed by the same page structs
>> at the same offset.
>>
>
> That sounds nice, but...
>
> For larger machine configurations, we have different memory access
> capabilities. When a partition that is located close to the home node
> of the memory accesses memory, it is normal access. When it is further
> away, they get special access to the line. Before the shared line is
> sent to the reading node, it is converted by the memory controller into
> an exclusive request and the reading node is handed the only copy of
> the line. If we gave a remote kernel access to the page, we would also
> open the entire owning nodes page tables up to speculative references
> which effectively would be viewed by hardware as cache-line contention.
>
> Additionally, we have needs beyond memory backed by files. Including
> special devices which do not have struct pages at all (see mspec.c).
>
I don't understand.
I was just explaining how kvm shares memory among guests (which does not
require mmu notifiers); if you have some other configuration that can
benefit from mmu notifiers, then, well, great.
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-09 18:19 mmu notifiers Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20080109181908.GS6958-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-09 21:54 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801091352320.12335-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 11:44 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <47860512.3040607-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Robin Holt
[not found] ` <20080110131612.GA1933-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <47861D3C.6070709-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-10 14:50 ` Robin Holt
2008-01-10 19:06 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801101105210.20353-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-12 19:56 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-10 19:04 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801101103470.20353-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-12 19:51 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <47891A5C.8060907-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-13 12:09 ` Robin Holt
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2008-01-13 12:28 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
[not found] ` <478A03D8.9050308-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14 19:51 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801141150010.8300-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-14 19:49 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801141148540.8300-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 7:38 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <478C62F8.2070702-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 17:39 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801150938260.9893-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 17:53 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <478CF30F.1010100-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 17:57 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801150956040.10089-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <478CF609.3090304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 18:16 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801151011380.10265-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 7:39 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <478DB4B3.2000505-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 18:08 ` Christoph Lameter
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