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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alexander Graf <alex-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] fix VMX TSC synchronicity
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:09:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <478CCCA9.2080300@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478CC819.3040106-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>

Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> What I mean is, right now we present really broken tscs to the guest.  
>> After your patch, we present less-broken tscs (at boot, they will 
>> closely resemble stable tscs).  But after the machine idles a bit and 
>> cpufreq takes over, the tscs won't be stable any more.
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Why would the TSC break due to cpufreq? This patchset was against VMX,
> which is only available on current Intel CPUs. All of those guarantee a
> constant TSC increase at the maximum frequency.
>
> Also see the Intel Documentation:
>
> Vol. 3 18-37
>
> For Pentium 4 processors, Intel Xeon processors (family [0FH], models
> [03H and higher]); for Intel Core Solo and Intel Core Duo processors
> (family [06H], model [0EH]); for the Intel Xeon processor 5100 series
> and Intel Core 2 Duo processors (family [06H], model [0FH]): the
> time-stamp counter increments at a constant rate. That rate may be set
> by the maximum core-clock to bus-clock ratio of the processor or may be
> set by the maximum resolved frequency at which the processor is booted.
> The maximum resolved frequency may differ from the maximum qualified
> frequency of the processor, see Section 18.17.5 for more
> detail.
> The specific processor configuration determines the behavior. Constant
> TSC behavior ensures that the duration of each clock tick is uniform and
> supports the use of the TSC as a wall clock timer even if the processor
> core changes frequency.
> This is the architectural behavior moving forward.

Thanks; that's reassuring to know that it will work (at least on Intel).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-15 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-11 20:49 [RFC] fix VMX TSC synchronicity Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-13 12:19 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]   ` <478A01D1.7000402-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-14 16:06     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-14 20:46       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-15 14:59         ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-15 14:33       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <478CC448.1030901-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 14:50           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]             ` <478CC819.3040106-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 15:09               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <478CCCA9.2080300-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 16:42                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                     ` <478CE277.9010109-r27SGEef+tmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 17:46                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <478CF186.5030304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 18:29                           ` Amit Shah
2008-01-16  5:51                   ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                     ` <p73ir1ul3ls.fsf-KvMlXPVkKihbpigZmTR7Iw@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16  8:46                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <478DC453.1000404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:34                           ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                             ` <478E08E5.2030507@qumranet.com>
     [not found]                               ` <478E08E5.2030507-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:54                                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                                   ` <20080116135415.GA14664-qrUzlfsMFqo/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 13:56                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-17 18:43                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-17 18:56                                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-20 14:59                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-04 15:40                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-06 13:55                                         ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-12  3:11 Will Trives
2008-01-12 12:28 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-01-12 13:48   ` Will Trives
2008-01-12 20:51     ` Avi Kivity

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