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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt
	<benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	steiner-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	daniel.blueman-xqY44rlHlBpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh-DTz5qymZ9yRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:51:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4797384B.7080200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221232040.28197-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

  Hi,

Jumping in here, looks like this could develop into a direction useful
for Xen.

Background:  Xen has a mechanism called "grant tables" for page sharing.
 Guest #1 can issue a "grant" for another guest #2, which in turn then
can use that grant to map the page owned by guest #1 into its address
space.  This is used by the virtual network/disk drivers, i.e. typically
Domain-0 (which has access to the real hardware) maps pages of other
guests to fill in disk/network data.

Establishing and tearing down mappings for those grants must happen
through a special grant table hypercall, and especially for the tear
down part of the problem mmu/export/whatever-we-call-them-in-the-end
notifies could help.

> Issues with mmu_ops #2
> 
> - Notifiers are called *after* we tore down ptes.

That would render the notifies useless for Xen too.  Xen needs to
intercept the actual pte clear and instead of just zapping it use the
hypercall to do the unmap and release the grant.

Current implementation uses a new vm_ops operation which is called if
present instead of doing a ptep_get_and_clear_full().  It is in the
XenSource tree only, mainline hasn't this yet due to implementing only
the DomU bits so far.  When adding Dom0 support to mainline we'll need
some way to handle it, and I'd like to see the notifies be designed in a
way that Xen can simply use them.

cheers,
  Gerd


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-23 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] ` <20080113162418.GE8736-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-13 21:11   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801141154240.8300-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15  4:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]         ` <20080115124449.GK30812-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 20:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16  1:06             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42   ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]     ` <20080116124256.44033d48-Fuq27k0DHcCSkoNiqTzCLQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 17:48       ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]         ` <478E4356.7030303-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 16:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21             ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]               ` <478F9C9C.7070500-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 19:32                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20080117193252.GC24131-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-21 12:52                     ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                       ` <20080121125204.GJ6970-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22  2:21                         ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <4795F9D2.1050503-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 14:43                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                               ` <20080122144332.GE7331-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:08                                 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                   ` <20080122200858.GB15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:34                                     ` [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221232040.28197-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:31                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                           ` <20080122223139.GD15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:53                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221433080.2271-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:27                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <479716AD.5070708-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:52                                                     ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04                                                       ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                         ` <20080123120446.GF15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:34                                                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231147370.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:58                                                               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123105246.GG26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:47                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231145210.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  5:56                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798289B.1000007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:26                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20080124122623.GK7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:34                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                   ` <20080123114136.GE15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:32                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123123230.GH26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:33                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080123173325.GG7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 20:27                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42                                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20080124154239.GP7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 20:07                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801241205510.22285-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-25  6:35                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231149150.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:34                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080124143454.GN7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:41                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798AB96.4000408-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 15:18                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23  0:40                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221640010.3329-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23  1:21                                               ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
     [not found]                                           ` <4797384B.7080200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 13:19                                             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                               ` <20080123131939.GJ26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:12                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974B54.30407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:18                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123141814.GE3058-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:35                                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                           ` <479750CA.4070101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 15:48                                                             ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974C78.7050509-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:03                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20080123154130.GC7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:47                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                 ` <47977DCA.3040904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  6:01                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24  6:45                                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24  2:00                                     ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
     [not found]                                       ` <20080124020007.GL26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:05                                         ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28                       ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                           ` <20080122203125.GC15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:10                             ` Hugh Dickins

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