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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-3NddpPZAyC0@public.gmane.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt
	<benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	steiner-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	daniel.blueman-xqY44rlHlBpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	Robin Holt <holt-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh-DTz5qymZ9yRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] export notifier #1
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:56:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4798289B.1000007@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231145210.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Robin Holt wrote:
>
>   
>>> That won't work for kvm.  If we have a hundred virtual machines, that means
>>> 99 no-op notifications.
>>>       
>> But 100 callouts holding spinlocks will not work for our implementation
>> and even if the callouts are made with spinlocks released, we would very
>> strongly prefer a single callout which messages the range to the other
>> side.
>>     
>
>
> Andrea wont have 99 no op notifications. You will have one notification to 
> the kvm subsystem (since there needs to be only one register operation 
> for a subsystem that wants to get notifications). What do you do there is 
> up to kvm. If you want to call some function 99 times then you are free to 
> do that.
>   

What I need is a list of (mm, va) that map the page.  kvm doesn't have 
access to that, export notifiers do.  It seems reasonable that export 
notifier do that rmap walk since they are part of core mm, not kvm.

Alternatively, kvm can change its internal rmap structure to be page 
based instead of (mm, hva) based.  The problem here is to size this 
thing, as we don't know in advance (when the kvm module is loaded) 
whether 0% or 100% (or some value in between) of system memory will be 
used for kvm.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-24  5:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13 16:24 [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v2 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] ` <20080113162418.GE8736-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-13 21:11   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-14 20:02   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801141154240.8300-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15  4:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-15 12:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]         ` <20080115124449.GK30812-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 20:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-16  1:06             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-16 17:42   ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]     ` <20080116124256.44033d48-Fuq27k0DHcCSkoNiqTzCLQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-16 17:48       ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]         ` <478E4356.7030303-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 16:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-17 18:21             ` Izik Eidus
     [not found]               ` <478F9C9C.7070500-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-17 19:32                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                   ` <20080117193252.GC24131-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-21 12:52                     ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                       ` <20080121125204.GJ6970-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22  2:21                         ` Rik van Riel
2008-01-22 14:12                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                           ` <4795F9D2.1050503-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 14:43                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                               ` <20080122144332.GE7331-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:08                                 ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v4 Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                   ` <20080122200858.GB15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 20:34                                     ` [PATCH] export notifier #1 Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221232040.28197-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:31                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                           ` <20080122223139.GD15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:53                                             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                               ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221433080.2271-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:27                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <479716AD.5070708-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 10:52                                                     ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:04                                                       ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                         ` <20080123120446.GF15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:34                                                           ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 19:48                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231147370.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:58                                                               ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123105246.GG26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 19:47                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231145210.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  5:56                                                             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798289B.1000007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:26                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20080124122623.GK7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 12:34                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 11:41                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                   ` <20080123114136.GE15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 12:32                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123123230.GH26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:33                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080123173325.GG7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 20:27                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24 15:42                                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20080124154239.GP7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 20:07                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801241205510.22285-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-25  6:35                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-23 20:18                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801231149150.13547-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:34                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                                           ` <20080124143454.GN7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 14:41                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-01-24 15:15                                                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                               ` <4798AB96.4000408-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24 15:18                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24 20:01                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 23:36                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23  0:40                                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801221640010.3329-RYO/mD75kfhx2SFC9UQUAuF7EQX82lMiAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23  1:21                                               ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 12:51                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                           ` <4797384B.7080200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 13:19                                             ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                               ` <20080123131939.GJ26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:12                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974B54.30407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:18                                                     ` Robin Holt
     [not found]                                                       ` <20080123141814.GE3058-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 14:35                                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                           ` <479750CA.4070101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 15:48                                                             ` Robin Holt
2008-01-23 14:17                                                 ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <47974C78.7050509-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:03                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-23 15:41                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                                             ` <20080123154130.GC7141-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-23 17:47                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                                                 ` <47977DCA.3040904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  6:01                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-01-24  6:45                                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-01-23 20:40                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-24  2:00                                     ` Enhance mmu notifiers to accomplish a lockless implementation (incomplete) Robin Holt
     [not found]                                       ` <20080124020007.GL26420-sJ/iWh9BUns@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-24  4:05                                         ` Robin Holt
2008-01-22 19:28                       ` [PATCH] mmu notifiers #v3 Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-01-22 20:31                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found]                           ` <20080122203125.GC15848-lysg2Xt5kKMAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-22 22:10                             ` Hugh Dickins

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