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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Update virtio to latest ABI
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:01:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <479DFC3E.8020709@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <479DB34F.8080001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>>
>>> This ABI breakage is worrying.  While it is expected to take some 
>>> time for the ABI to congeal, we need some way to prevent mismatched 
>>> guests and hosts from running.  Perhaps something like the kvm abi 
>>> version, storedin the pci revision field?  Keep incrementing it 
>>> until we are satisfied, then use feature bits to add functionality.
>>
>> This breakage wasn't actually necessary.  We could have used a 
>> feature bit to indicate the additional net config field.  In the very 
>> least, the additional net config field could have been added to the 
>> end of the config space so that old guests kept working that didn't 
>> use GSO.
>>
>> I don't think we need another mechanism to avoid breakages in the 
>> future.  I think we have to declare that whatever ships in 2.6.25 is 
>> the stable ABI and make sure not to break it again in the future.
>
> I'm worried about the ramp up to 2.6.25 causing confusion among users 
> as before that things will break left and right, if we don't provide a 
> tighter check.
>

Well, using the PCI revision ID isn't a bad idea.  It wouldn't have 
helped this last problem because that was an ABI break in the network 
driver and we really can't indicate a ABI break in the PCI driver for 
any possibly virtio device.  However, if we change the PCI ABI, we can 
be a little more friendly about it.

Just sent out patches.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-28 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-24 20:00 [PATCH] Update virtio to latest ABI Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <12012048063315-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-27  7:18   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <479C3049.1010509-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-27 23:06       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <479D0E7B.2060400-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-28 10:49           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <479DB34F.8080001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-28 16:01               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <479DFC3E.8020709-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-28 17:26                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <479E104A.2040405-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-28 18:28                       ` Anthony Liguori

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