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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm-ppc-devel <kvm-ppc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: upstream PowerPC qemu breakage
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:03:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47B2963A.503@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47B0D268.1000909@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> In the short term we'll have to fork a working userspace, since we're in
>> the middle of some other stuff (such as real guest IO, which I think is
>> pretty important :) .
>>
>> Long term, one option is to try to define a new qemu target that
>> completely bypasses the code generation parts of qemu. Anthony did that
>> for x86 once, but there are at least a couple sticking points; not sure
>> how long it will take. This is probably the best long-term way to avoid
>> this situation in the future.
>>   
>
> This is very easy to do and is probably the best long term and short 
> term solution.  If you introduce a new target type (ppcemb-kvm) and 
> drop the TCG/dyngen bits from the build for it, then you should be 
> okay.  It will require a small stub file but there's not more than a 
> dozen or so functions required for that.
>
> I think this would be generally useful for other architectures too 
> (like ia64, s390, and even x86).  At least ia64 and s390 aren't going 
> to have functioning translation bits so having a -kvm target really 
> makes a lot more sense than faking out a -softmmu target.
>

I don't think this is the right fix.  A machine type (if I understand it 
correctly) refers to a combination of a target processor, 
chipset/busses, and devices, not to how they are implemented in qemu.

I believe a better fix is to introduce an orthogonal 
--without-cpu-emulation.

-- 
Any sufficiently difficult bug is indistinguishable from a feature.


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-13  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-11 21:55 upstream PowerPC qemu breakage Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-11 22:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-02-13  7:03   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-02-12 10:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-12 18:56   ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-13  6:58     ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-16  0:26       ` [kvm-ppc-devel] " Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-16  8:47         ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-18 19:38           ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-02-18 20:22             ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-18 21:03               ` Hollis Blanchard

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