From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@intel.com>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: The SMP RHEL 5.1 PAE guest can't boot up issue
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:28:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C3E9B1.7040406@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A02CFD373@pdsmsx411.ccr.corp.intel.com>
Dong, Eddie wrote:
>>> I don't know if the patch was still needed now, since it was posted
>>> long ago(I don't know which issue it solved). I'd like to post a
>>> revert patch if necessary.
>>>
>>>
>> I believe the patch is still necessary, since we still need to
>> guarantee that a vcpu's tsc is monotonous. I think there are three
>> issues to be addressed:
>>
>> 1. The majority of intel machines don't need the offset adjustment
>> since they already have a constant rate tsc that is synchronized on
>> all cpus. I think this is indicated by X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC
>> (though I'm not 100% certain if it means that the rate is the same
>> for all cpus, Thomas can you clarify?)
>>
>
> So why not make the TSC_OFFSET adjustment conditional?
>
Yes, that's what I meant. We just need to be sure that this is what
X86_FEATURE_CONSTANT_TSC means.
>
>> This will improve tsc quality for those machines, but we can't depend
>> on it, since some machines don't have constant tsc. Further, I don't
>> think really large machines can have constant tsc since clock
>> distribution becomes difficult or impossible.
>>
>
> For NUMA machines, this is an issue, but depend on how you support
> NUMA. One way is to bind VCPUs of a guest to same node if guest is not
> NUMA, if this is the model, then we don't have issue.
> I think Xen is planning in this way and it is same for KVM.
>
>
>
This is a user decision, many small VMs or a few larger ones. To
support the "many small VMs", we need to be able to detect the tsc
stability groups. I don't think that's the same as NUMA nodes for
processors with on-board memory controllers (where each processor is a
node).
>> 2. We should implement round robin and lowest priority like qemu does.
>> Xen does the same thing:
>>
>>
>>> /* HACK: Route IRQ0 only to VCPU0 to prevent time jumps. */
>>> #define IRQ0_SPECIAL_ROUTING 1
>>>
>> in arch/x86/hvm/vioapic.c, at least for irq 0.
>>
>
> We did same thing in Xen long time ago to avoid this issue.
> It helps but not perfect.
>
An equivalent hack is now in kvm as well.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-26 10:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-22 8:57 The SMP RHEL 5.1 PAE guest can't boot up issue Yang, Sheng
2008-02-22 16:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-22 17:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-02-22 18:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-22 20:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-02-23 15:24 ` Farkas Levente
2008-02-24 8:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-25 4:09 ` Yang, Sheng
2008-02-25 18:03 ` Farkas Levente
2008-02-25 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-25 18:24 ` Farkas Levente
2008-02-25 23:46 ` Dong, Eddie
2008-02-26 10:28 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-02-29 4:35 ` Zhao Forrest
2008-03-04 11:38 ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-29 8:26 ` Zhao Forrest
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