From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@kvack.org>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] shrinker support for the mmu cache
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:29:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47DF6153.8090708@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080317213352.GA8552@dmt>
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:41:18PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>
>>>> While aging is not too hard to do, I don't think it would add much in
>>>> practice; we rarely observe mmu shadow pages being recycled due to
>>>> memory pressure. So this is mostly helpful for preventing a VM from
>>>> pinning memory when under severe memory pressure, where we don't expect
>>>> good performance anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Issue is that the shrinker callback will not be called only under
>>> severe memory pressure, but for normal system pressure too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> How much shrinkage goes on under normal pressure?
>>
>
> It depends on the number of LRU pages scanned and the size of the cache.
>
> Roughly the number of LRU pages scanned divided by shrinker->seeks,
> relative to cache size (mm/vmscan.c shrink_slab).
>
>
Since the maximum cache size is a small fraction of memory size, I think
we should be okay here.
>> Rebuilding a single shadow page costs a maximum of 512 faults (so about
>> 1 msec). If the shrinker evicts one entry per second, this is a
>> performance hiy of 0.1%.
>>
>> Perhaps if we set the cost high enough, the normal eviction rate will be
>> low enough.
>>
>
> I think its pretty easy to check for the referenced bit on pages to
> avoid recently used ones from being zapped.
>
Not so easy:
- the pages don't have an accessed bit, the parent ptes do, so we need
to scan the parent ptes list
- pages start out referenced, so we need to age them in two stages:
first clear the accessed bits (and move them back to the tail of the
queue); if we find a page on the head with all accessed bits clear, we
can throw it away.
- root pages don't have parent ptes, so we need to track access to them
manually
- if the accessed bit clearing rate is too high, it loses its meaning
Nothing horribly hard, but not trivial either.
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-12 18:13 [PATCH] shrinker support for the mmu cache Izik Eidus
2008-03-12 19:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-12 23:32 ` Izik Eidus
2008-03-12 22:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-03-12 23:23 ` Izik Eidus
2008-03-13 21:55 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-03-16 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-17 13:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-03-17 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-17 21:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2008-03-18 6:29 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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