* [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
@ 2008-03-18 15:42 Avi Kivity
2008-03-18 19:39 ` david ahern
2008-03-19 14:51 ` Alexey Eremenko
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From: Avi Kivity @ 2008-03-18 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: KVM
This is the first release of the kvm drivers disc -- a collection of kvm
guest drivers packaged as an ISO 9660 CD-ROM for easy installation.
The driver disc can be obtained from the kvm download page, below.
Initial release:
- kvm-guest-drivers-linux-1
- kvm-guest-drivers-windows-1
http://kvm.qumranet.com
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-18 15:42 [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318 Avi Kivity
@ 2008-03-18 19:39 ` david ahern
2008-03-18 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-19 14:51 ` Alexey Eremenko
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From: david ahern @ 2008-03-18 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Avi Kivity; +Cc: KVM
Are you interested in collecting ports of the drivers for various distributions?
I have the virtio drivers working with RHEL4. The virtio_net appears to be
working better than e1000 for the workload I am testing with (though I still the
need the noapic boot option). The virtio_blk driver mostly works (the VM
freezes from time and time which gdb and strace seem to clear); its performance
so far lags the scsi driver.
david
Avi Kivity wrote:
> This is the first release of the kvm drivers disc -- a collection of kvm
> guest drivers packaged as an ISO 9660 CD-ROM for easy installation.
>
> The driver disc can be obtained from the kvm download page, below.
>
> Initial release:
> - kvm-guest-drivers-linux-1
> - kvm-guest-drivers-windows-1
>
> http://kvm.qumranet.com
>
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-18 19:39 ` david ahern
@ 2008-03-18 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-19 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
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From: Anthony Liguori @ 2008-03-18 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: david ahern; +Cc: KVM, Avi Kivity
david ahern wrote:
> Are you interested in collecting ports of the drivers for various distributions?
>
What we would like to do, is have the kvm-guest-drivers-linux.git tree
autogenerate backports for as far back as we need them. Posting what
you needed to do for RHEL4 would be helpful. What would be most helpful
is actually submitting a patch to that repo that did the awk/cpp magic
to generate the backport.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> I have the virtio drivers working with RHEL4. The virtio_net appears to be
> working better than e1000 for the workload I am testing with (though I still the
> need the noapic boot option). The virtio_blk driver mostly works (the VM
> freezes from time and time which gdb and strace seem to clear); its performance
> so far lags the scsi driver.
>
> david
>
>
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> This is the first release of the kvm drivers disc -- a collection of kvm
>> guest drivers packaged as an ISO 9660 CD-ROM for easy installation.
>>
>> The driver disc can be obtained from the kvm download page, below.
>>
>> Initial release:
>> - kvm-guest-drivers-linux-1
>> - kvm-guest-drivers-windows-1
>>
>> http://kvm.qumranet.com
>>
>>
>
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-18 19:50 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2008-03-19 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-19 14:58 ` david ahern
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From: Avi Kivity @ 2008-03-19 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: KVM, david ahern
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> david ahern wrote:
>> Are you interested in collecting ports of the drivers for various
>> distributions?
>>
>
> What we would like to do, is have the kvm-guest-drivers-linux.git tree
> autogenerate backports for as far back as we need them. Posting what
> you needed to do for RHEL4 would be helpful. What would be most
> helpful is actually submitting a patch to that repo that did the
> awk/cpp magic to generate the backport.
>
It might be difficult for RHEL 4, which is 2.6.5 based IIRC. If the
magic required is more that 500 millithaums, then an independent driver
would be better.
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-19 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
@ 2008-03-19 14:58 ` david ahern
2008-03-19 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-19 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
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From: david ahern @ 2008-03-19 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Avi Kivity; +Cc: KVM
Avi Kivity wrote:
> It might be difficult for RHEL 4, which is 2.6.5 based IIRC. If the
> magic required is more that 500 millithaums, then an independent driver
> would be better.
RHEL4 is based on 2.6.9.
What do you mean by "magic required is more that 500 millithaums"?
david
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-19 14:58 ` david ahern
@ 2008-03-19 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-19 15:53 ` david ahern
2008-03-19 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
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From: Anthony Liguori @ 2008-03-19 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: david ahern; +Cc: KVM, Avi Kivity
david ahern wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> It might be difficult for RHEL 4, which is 2.6.5 based IIRC. If the
>> magic required is more that 500 millithaums, then an independent driver
>> would be better.
>>
>
> RHEL4 is based on 2.6.9.
>
> What do you mean by "magic required is more that 500 millithaums"?
>
I believe that was a joke :-)
Right now, we use an awk script to automatically insert a bunch of
#ifdef COMPAT_xxx into the virtio drivers. Combined with a special
include header, this automatically creates a new source tree from the
upstream bits that can be compiled on many different kernel versions.
Right now we support roughly 2.6.18-2.6.25.
The question is how far can we push this before it gets ridiculous. I'd
like to try going back to 2.6.9. Posting what you have now would be
helpful. If it gets too difficult, we may just have to have independent
source trees for things like RHEL4.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> david
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-19 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2008-03-19 15:53 ` david ahern
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From: david ahern @ 2008-03-19 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Anthony Liguori; +Cc: KVM, Avi Kivity
I cringed a bit when you suggested the awk script route. It's quite likely that
drivers for older distributions have to be manually updated as needed. I'll post
my RHEL4 version in the next couple of days for comments.
thanks,
david
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> david ahern wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> It might be difficult for RHEL 4, which is 2.6.5 based IIRC. If the
>>> magic required is more that 500 millithaums, then an independent driver
>>> would be better.
>>>
>>
>> RHEL4 is based on 2.6.9.
>>
>> What do you mean by "magic required is more that 500 millithaums"?
>>
>
> I believe that was a joke :-)
>
> Right now, we use an awk script to automatically insert a bunch of
> #ifdef COMPAT_xxx into the virtio drivers. Combined with a special
> include header, this automatically creates a new source tree from the
> upstream bits that can be compiled on many different kernel versions.
> Right now we support roughly 2.6.18-2.6.25.
>
> The question is how far can we push this before it gets ridiculous. I'd
> like to try going back to 2.6.9. Posting what you have now would be
> helpful. If it gets too difficult, we may just have to have independent
> source trees for things like RHEL4.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> david
>>
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-19 14:58 ` david ahern
2008-03-19 15:29 ` Anthony Liguori
@ 2008-03-19 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
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From: Avi Kivity @ 2008-03-19 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: david ahern; +Cc: KVM
david ahern wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> It might be difficult for RHEL 4, which is 2.6.5 based IIRC. If the
>> magic required is more that 500 millithaums, then an independent driver
>> would be better.
>>
>
> RHEL4 is based on 2.6.9.
>
> What do you mean by "magic required is more that 500 millithaums"?
>
>
A Thaum is the amount of magic required to conjure one standard white
pigeon.
I meant that the amount of changes needed to port the driver to 2.6.9 is
too large, the script to do automatic backporting might turn out to be
less maintainable than keeping an independent source tree. We're not
far from that point even for 2.6.18; for example running the script
against 2.6.25-current will produce an unbuildable driver.
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* Re: [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318
2008-03-18 15:42 [ANNOUNCE] kvm-driver-disc-20080318 Avi Kivity
2008-03-18 19:39 ` david ahern
@ 2008-03-19 14:51 ` Alexey Eremenko
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From: Alexey Eremenko @ 2008-03-19 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Avi Kivity, KVM
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Initial release:
- kvm-guest-drivers-linux-1
- kvm-guest-drivers-windows-1
Out of the bunch only Win2000 drivers work.
1. kvm-guest-drivers-linux-1 fail to configure themselves, while
2. XP drivers halt the VM.
I think Yan has newer XP drivers.
-Alexey, 19.3.2008
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