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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	lguest <lguest@ozlabs.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:46:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47E2F75F.2040808@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803210912.25648.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Rusty Russell wrote:
> How odd!  Do you have any idea why?
>   

Nope, but part of the reason I did this was I recalled a similar 
discussion relating to kqemu and why it used /dev/shm.  I thought it was 
only an issue with older kernels but apparently not.

>> /dev/shm is not really for general use.  I think we'll want to have our
>> own tmpfs mount that we use to create VM images.
>>     
>
> If we're going to mod the kernel, how about a "mmap this part of their address 
> space" and having the kernel keep the mappings in sync.  But I think that if 
> we want to get speed, we should probably be doing the copy between address 
> spaces in-kernel so we can do lightweight exits.
>   

I don't think lightweight exits help the situation very much.  The 
difference between a light weight and heavy weight exit is only 3-4k 
cycles or so.

in-kernel doesn't make the situation much easier.  You have to map pages 
in from a different task.  It's a lot easier if you have both guest 
mapped in userspace.

>> I also prefer to use a 
>> unix socket for communication, unlink the file immediately after open,
>> and then pass the fd via SCM_RIGHTS to the other process.
>>     
>
> Yeah, I shied away from that because cred passing kills whole litters of 
> puppies.  It makes for better encapsulation tho, so I'd do it that way in a 
> serious implementation.
>   

I'm working on an implementation for KVM at the moment.  Instead of just 
supporting two guests, I'm looking to support N-guests and provide a 
simple switch.  I'll have patches soon.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Cheers,
> Rusty.
>   


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-20 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20  5:59 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Rusty Russell
     [not found] ` <200803201659.14344.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:05   ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  8:16     ` [Lguest] " Tim Post
     [not found]       ` <1206000960.6873.124.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:07         ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-21  0:29         ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <200803201705.44422.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:22       ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] lguest: Encapsulate Guest memory ready for dealing with other Guests Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:36         ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] lguest: separate out virtqueue info from device info Rusty Russell
     [not found]           ` <200803201736.01883.rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20  6:40             ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] lguest: ignore bad virtqueues Rusty Russell
2008-03-20  6:45               ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] lguest: Inter-guest networking Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:04       ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/5] lguest: mmap backing file Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <47E26EE1.5030706-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:32           ` Paul TBBle Hampson
2008-03-20 15:07           ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:12           ` [kvm-devel] " Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 23:46             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-03-23  9:11               ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20  6:54   ` [kvm-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] Inter-guest virtio I/O example with lguest Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <47E20A35.2000600-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 13:55       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <47E26CC1.8080900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:27           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47E27461.4090404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 14:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 14:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-03-20 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 15:36                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                       ` <47E28482.9010501-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-20 15:52                         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-20 22:14     ` Rusty Russell
2008-03-20 14:11   ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-03-23 12:05     ` Rusty Russell

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