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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, allen.m.kay@intel.com,
	benami@il.ibm.com, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] direct mmio for passthrough - kernel part
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:28:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47F27EE8.3030300@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080401181819.GB19189@duo.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:20:49AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Which is apparently entirely unnecessary as we already have 
>> /sys/bus/pci/.../region.  It's just a matter of checking if a vma is VM_IO 
>> and then dealing with the subsequent reference counting issues as Avi 
>> points out.
>>     
>
> Do you need to map it in userland too, isn't it enough to map it in
> the sptes?
>
> For the ram I had to map it in userland too with /dev/mem, and then I
> used the pte_pfn to fill the spte, so the emulated qemu drivers can
> input/output. But for the mmio space I doubt the userland side is
> needed.
>
> If you add a direct memslot (new bitflag type) I will use it too
> instead of catching get_user_pages failures and walking ptes on the
> RAM pieces overwritten by /dev/mem.
>   

There's a certain amount of elegance in mapping to userspace and not 
introducing a direct memslot.  It helps simplify the security model 
since an application isn't able to do anything more than it could 
without KVM.

The difficulty with a direct memslot is how you introduce policies to 
limit what guests can access what memslots directly.  You would have to 
teach KVM to interact with the PCI subsystem to determine what memory 
was within a particular PCI IO region.  Not impossible, just ugly.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-01 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-01 11:52 [RFC] direct mmio for passthrough benami
2008-04-01 11:52 ` [PATCH 1/1] direct mmio for passthrough - kernel part benami
2008-04-01 13:30   ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 14:42     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 15:20       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 17:05         ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 18:18         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 18:28           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-04-01 17:03       ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 17:18         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-04-01 18:10           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 18:18             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-04-01 18:23             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 18:21         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-01 19:22           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 22:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 22:22           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-01 22:29             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-02  4:00               ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 19:28     ` Ben-Ami Yassour1
2008-04-01 19:43       ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-01 20:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-02  4:32           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02  7:03             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02  9:50               ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 10:28                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 10:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 11:16                     ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 11:50                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-02 11:53                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-04-03  8:51                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-02 14:59                     ` Anthony Liguori

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