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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] RFC: split the global mutex
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:16:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480B2624.9040805@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080417201021.515148882@localhost.localdomain>

Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> Introduce QEMUDevice, making the ioport/iomem->device relationship visible. 
>
> At the moment it only contains a lock, but could be extended.
>
> With it the following is possible:
>     - vcpu's to read/write via ioports/iomem while the iothread is working on 
>       some unrelated device, or just copying data from the kernel.
>     - vcpu's to read/write via ioports/iomem to different devices simultaneously.
>
> This patchset is only a proof of concept kind of thing, so only serial+raw image
> are supported. 
>
> Tried two benchmarks, iperf and tiobench. With tiobench the reported latency is 
> significantly lower (20%+), but throughput with IDE is only slightly higher. 
>
> Expect to see larger improvements with a higher performing IO scheme (SCSI still buggy,
> looking at it).
>
> The iperf numbers are pretty good. Performance of UP guests increase slightly but SMP
> is quite significant.
>
>   


I expect you're seeing contention induced by memcpy()s and inefficient 
emulation.  With the dma api, I expect the benefit will drop.


> Note that workloads with multiple busy devices (such as databases, web servers) should
> be the real winners.
>
> What is the feeling on this? Its not _that_ intrusive and can be easily NOP'ed out for
> QEMU.
>
>   

I think many parts are missing (or maybe, I missed them).  You need to 
lock the qemu internals (there are many read-mostly qemu caches 
scattered around the code), lock against hotplug, etc.  For pure cpu 
emulation, there is a ton of work to be done: protecting the translator 
as well as making the translated code smp safe.

I think that QemuDevice makes sense, and that we want this long term, 
but that we first need to improve efficiency (which reduces cpu 
utilization _and_ improves scalability) rather than look at scalability 
alone (which is much harder in addition to the drawback of not reducing 
cpu utilization).


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-20 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-17 20:10 [patch 00/13] RFC: split the global mutex Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 01/13] QEMU: get rid of global cpu_single_env Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 02/13] QEMU: introduce QEMUDevice Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 03/13] QEMU: make esp.c build conditional to SPARC target Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 04/13] QEMU: plug QEMUDevice pt1 / ioport awareness Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 05/13] QEMU: add a mutex to protect IRQ chip data structures Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 06/13] QEMU: plug QEMUDevice pt2 / iomem awareness Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 07/13] QEMU: grab device lock for ioport/iomem processing Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 08/13] QEMU: character device locking Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 09/13] QEMU: network " Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 10/13] QEMU: get rid of aiocb cache Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 11/13] QEMU: block device locking Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 12/13] QEMU: scsi-disk reentrancy fix Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-17 20:10 ` [patch 13/13] QEMU/KVM: get rid of global lock Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-20 11:16 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-04-21  0:00   ` [patch 00/13] RFC: split the global mutex Marcelo Tosatti
2008-04-21  6:10     ` Avi Kivity

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