Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
benefits:

- better spam control
- faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
- no ads appended to the end of each email

If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service 
interruption.

Opinions?

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Yang, Sheng]

On Thursday 24 April 2008 20:54:10 Avi Kivity wrote:
> I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following
> benefits:
>
> - better spam control
> - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
> - no ads appended to the end of each email
>
> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will
> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service
> interruption.
>
> Opinions?

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[David Miller]

From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:54:10 +0300

> I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
> benefits:
> 
> - better spam control
> - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
> - no ads appended to the end of each email
> 
> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service 
> interruption.

I'm fine with adding the list, but we don't do mass subscribes like
that, and this rule applies to every list which moves to vger from
somewhere else.

People will need to subscribe themselves to the new list.

We enforce this for two reasons:

1) If they don't go through the action of subscribing, they
   won't be able to unsubscribe, so they'll be upset and
   also bug us postmasters for help.

2) People are generally unhappy when they are subscribed to
   mailing lists at a site they didn't ask to be at.

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

David Miller wrote:
>> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
>> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service 
>> interruption.
>>     
>
> I'm fine with adding the list, but we don't do mass subscribes like
> that, and this rule applies to every list which moves to vger from
> somewhere else.
>
>   

(three lists)

> People will need to subscribe themselves to the new list.
>   

Okay.  Will give people a week's notice to subscribe.

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Re: [kvm-ppc-devel] Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Hollis Blanchard]

On Thursday 24 April 2008 07:54:10 Avi Kivity wrote:
> I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
> benefits:
> 
> - better spam control
> - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
> - no ads appended to the end of each email
> 
> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service 
> interruption.

Sounds good to me.

Will we continue to have manual moderation for non-subscribers? That seems to 
be a good way to handle the last 1% of spam that sneaks through the automated 
filters.

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Re: [kvm-ppc-devel] Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> On Thursday 24 April 2008 07:54:10 Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
>> benefits:
>>
>> - better spam control
>> - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
>> - no ads appended to the end of each email
>>
>> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
>> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no service 
>> interruption.
>>     
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> Will we continue to have manual moderation for non-subscribers? That seems to 
> be a good way to handle the last 1% of spam that sneaks through the automated 
> filters.
>   

kvm-devel doesn't do manual moderation.  If  vger has the 
infrastructure, I don't see why you can't continue doing this on 
kvm-ppc-devel.

btw, we can probably shorten the names to kvm@ and kvm-$arch@ while 
we're at it.

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Andi Kleen]

David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> writes:

> I'm fine with adding the list, but we don't do mass subscribes like
> that, and this rule applies to every list which moves to vger from
> somewhere else.
>
> People will need to subscribe themselves to the new list.

Can someone please resubscribe gmane too for us gmane users when
the move occurs?
Thanks,
-Andi

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Re: [kvm-ppc-devel] Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Jes Sorensen]

>>>>> "Avi" == Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com> writes:

Avi> kvm-devel doesn't do manual moderation.  If vger has the
Avi> infrastructure, I don't see why you can't continue doing this on
Avi> kvm-ppc-devel.

Please don't do this for the kvm-ia64 list either.

Avi> btw, we can probably shorten the names to kvm@ and kvm-$arch@
Avi> while we're at it.

Either way works IMHO.

Cheers,
Jes

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

Avi Kivity wrote:
> I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
> benefits:
>
> - better spam control
> - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
> - no ads appended to the end of each email
>
> If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
> mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no 
> service interruption.
>

Since no objections were raised, we'll start to get this rolling.


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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[David Miller]

From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:40:29 +0300

> Avi Kivity wrote:
> > I propose moving the kvm lists to vger.kernel.org, for the following 
> > benefits:
> >
> > - better spam control
> > - faster service (I see significant lag with the sourceforge lists)
> > - no ads appended to the end of each email
> >
> > If no objections are raised, and if the vger postmasters agree, I will 
> > mass subscribe the current subscribers so that there will be no 
> > service interruption.
> >
> 
> Since no objections were raised, we'll start to get this rolling.

Should I create the list(s) now?  If so, please let me know the
names they should have.

Thanks.

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

David Miller wrote:
> Should I create the list(s) now?  If so, please let me know the
> names they should have.
>   

I sent an email a couple of days ago to postmaster@vger.kernel.org:

> Hi, please create the following lists for kvm:
>
>  kvm (x86 and general discussion)
>  kvm-ppc (powerpc, managed by Hollis Blanchard)
>  kvm-ia64 (ia64)
>  kvm-commits (read-only, tracks commits to kvm git HEAD)
>
> Thanks. 

Thanks.

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[David Miller]

From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:46:13 +0300

> I sent an email a couple of days ago to postmaster@vger.kernel.org:
> 
> > Hi, please create the following lists for kvm:
> >
> >  kvm (x86 and general discussion)
> >  kvm-ppc (powerpc, managed by Hollis Blanchard)
> >  kvm-ia64 (ia64)
> >  kvm-commits (read-only, tracks commits to kvm git HEAD)
> >
> > Thanks. 

I've created (and tested) all of these lists.

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Re: Moving kvm lists to kernel.org?

[Avi Kivity]

David Miller wrote:
> I've created (and tested) all of these lists.
>
>   

Thanks. I about a week I'll make the sourceforge lists read-only.

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