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From: Izik Eidus <izik@qumranet.com>
To: Arn <cse.syslab@gmail.com>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What happens if I use get_user_pages()
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:40:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48744130.4000903@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <896ae46a0807081404p32cf4e22wc9aaab6f111b42a@mail.gmail.com>

ציטוט Arn:
>>> If I use the kernel function "get_user_pages()" within a guest
>>> kernel module, will this ensure that the guests pages are never
>>> swapped out by the host ? Will it lock these pages in memory ?
>>> (Has anyone tried this ? )
>>>       
>> As Izik said, the answer is no. Is this the desirable outcome, or are
>> you trying to find a way for the guest to force the host to pin pages
>> in memory? If so, why?
>>
>>     
>
> Izik, Muli, thanks,
>
> Actually I don't want the guests pages to be pinned at all. My aim is
> to do a timing check from within guest (guest kernel) to see if we can
> detect that the host has swapped out any of the guests pages. Without
> the guest knowing. Its proving to be more difficult than I had
> thought. Probably due to my lack of experience with kvm/linux
> internals.
>
> My idea is to get the guest kernel to read byte from each of its pages
> (either all or a random set of pages) and do a timing check at each
> read. A read from a page that has been swapped out by host should take
> much longer than a read done directly from memory.
>
> From previous emails on this list it seems that if I map a guest's
> page into its kernelspace then that page will never be swapped out
> (due to shadow pagetables). So now I'm stuck, any advice will be
> appreciated.
>   

pages that will be inside the shadow page tables wont be swappable, you 
have to use mmu notifiers patch in order to have reible swapping.

> thanks
> Arn
>   


      reply	other threads:[~2008-07-09  4:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-08  6:46 What happens if I use get_user_pages() Arn
2008-07-08  9:47 ` Izik Eidus
2008-07-08 19:41 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2008-07-08 21:04   ` Arn
2008-07-09  4:40     ` Izik Eidus [this message]

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