From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: akataria@vmware.com, "avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] CPUID usage for interaction between Hypervisors and Linux.
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:56:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E3D5F2.4090708@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E3C4C3.1050903@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> What you'd want, at least, is a standard CPUID identification and
> range leaf at the top. 256 leaves is a *lot*, though; I'm not saying
> one couldn't run out, but it'd be hard. Keep in mind that for large
> objects there are "counting" CPUID levels, as much as I personally
> dislike them, and one could easily argue that if you're doing
> something that would require anywhere near 256 leaves you probably are
> storing bulk data that belongs elsewhere.
I agree, but it just makes the proposal a bit more brittle.
> Of course, if we had some kind of central authority assigning 8-bit
> IDs that would be even better, especially since there are tools in the
> field which already scan on 64K boundaries. I don't know, though, how
> likely it is that we'll have to deal with 256 hypervisors.
I'm assuming that the likelihood of getting all possible vendors -
current and future - to agree to a scheme like this is pretty small. We
need to come up with something that will work well when there are
non-cooperative parties to deal with.
> I agree completely, of course (except that "what hypervisor is this"
> still has limited usage, especially when it comes to dealing with bug
> workarounds. Similar to the way we use CPU vendor IDs and stepping
> numbers for physical CPUs.)
I guess. Its certainly useful to be able to identify the hypervisor for
bug reporting and just general status information. But making
functional changes on that basis should be a last resort.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-01 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-01 17:14 [RFC] CPUID usage for interaction between Hypervisors and Linux Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 17:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 17:33 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 18:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-01 21:05 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-02 1:11 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-10-02 1:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-03 22:33 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-10-03 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-04 0:27 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-10-04 0:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-07 22:30 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-10-07 22:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-07 23:45 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-08 1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-07 23:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-07 23:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-08 0:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-04 8:53 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-01 17:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 18:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-01 18:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 18:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-01 18:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 18:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-01 18:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 19:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-10-01 20:38 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-01 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-01 21:01 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 21:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-01 21:15 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-01 21:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-01 21:23 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 21:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-01 21:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-01 21:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-01 21:43 ` Chris Wright
2008-10-02 11:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-01 23:47 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-10-02 0:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-02 0:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-02 1:11 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-10-02 1:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-02 0:41 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <48E3BBC1.2050607__35819.6151479662$1222884502$gmane$org@goop.org>
2008-10-01 20:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-01 20:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <48E3D8A8.604__13396.6479487301$1222891831$gmane$org@goop.org>
2008-10-01 21:03 ` Anthony Liguori
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