From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Avi Kivity Subject: Re: Call for help: moving the kvm wiki Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:33:21 +0200 Message-ID: <48F1C461.6060603@redhat.com> References: <48EF677C.80901@wpkg.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org To: Tomasz Chmielewski Return-path: Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]:38813 "EHLO mx2.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751919AbYJLJdZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:33:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <48EF677C.80901@wpkg.org> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: >> As you may have noticed, the kvm wiki is overrun by spammers. It the >> past I've regularly cleaned up the spam, but some time ago I've given >> up. >> >> So I'm looking for a volunteer to locate a spam-free public wiki host >> (candidates include wiki.kernel.org and fedorahosted.org) and transfer >> the contents (minus the spam). I don't think we need to transfer the >> editing history, but the conversion should adapt to the target's wiki >> syntax. > > Just use captcha or a similar system with your existing wiki. > I'm not the wiki's administrator. > My experience with administering wikis is: > > * if you don't use any preventive measures, your wiki will turn into a > collection of garbage very soon, unless you spend lots of time > monitoring changes > This has happened, even with registration. > * requiring users to register before using the wiki results in: > - much less contributions from users - very big disadvantage, > - fewer spam, but bots can register, so some spam will go through > I'm not worried about the registration burden, if someone is too lazy to register, they'll be lazy with the content as well. > * using captcha or a similar system prevents 100% of spam > - lots of people don't like captchas very much, as often they are hard > to read Definitely. > - personally, on my site (http://wpkg.org) user has to solve a simple > mathematics equation before the changes are accepted, like: > > 10 + 7 = ... [Accept button] > > > So I suggest going through a list of extensions/plugins for MoinMoin > (this is the wiki KVM uses), choosing something appropriate, and the > spam should be gone. Problem is, we're on an old version, with no prospect of upgrading. That's why I'd like to move to an existing, well maintained wiki host. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function