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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] vfio/mdev: inline needed class_compat functionality
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 18:05:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48b592ee-dff6-4ced-b8c9-67ebe8da5886@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2024120617-icon-bagel-86b3@gregkh>

On 06.12.2024 08:42, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 08:35:47AM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> On 04.12.2024 20:30, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:16:03 +0100
>>> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 06:01:36PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>>>>> On 04.12.2024 10:32, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:  
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 09:11:47PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:  
>>>>>>> vfio/mdev is the last user of class_compat, and it doesn't use it for
>>>>>>> the intended purpose. See kdoc of class_compat_register():
>>>>>>> Compatibility class are meant as a temporary user-space compatibility
>>>>>>> workaround when converting a family of class devices to a bus devices.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, so waht is mdev doing here?
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> In addition it uses only a part of the class_compat functionality.
>>>>>>> So inline the needed functionality, and afterwards all class_compat
>>>>>>> code can be removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No functional change intended. Compile-tested only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c | 12 ++++++------
>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c b/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
>>>>>>> index ed4737de4..a22c49804 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
>>>>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>>>>>>>  #define DRIVER_AUTHOR		"NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>>>>>  #define DRIVER_DESC		"Mediated device Core Driver"
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -static struct class_compat *mdev_bus_compat_class;
>>>>>>> +static struct kobject *mdev_bus_kobj;  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  static LIST_HEAD(mdev_list);
>>>>>>>  static DEFINE_MUTEX(mdev_list_lock);
>>>>>>> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ int mdev_register_parent(struct mdev_parent *parent, struct device *dev,
>>>>>>>  	if (ret)
>>>>>>>  		return ret;
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -	ret = class_compat_create_link(mdev_bus_compat_class, dev, NULL);
>>>>>>> +	ret = sysfs_create_link(mdev_bus_kobj, &dev->kobj, dev_name(dev));  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This feels really wrong, why create a link to a random kobject?  Who is
>>>>>> using this kobject link?
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>  	if (ret)
>>>>>>>  		dev_warn(dev, "Failed to create compatibility class link\n");
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ void mdev_unregister_parent(struct mdev_parent *parent)
>>>>>>>  	dev_info(parent->dev, "MDEV: Unregistering\n");
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  	down_write(&parent->unreg_sem);
>>>>>>> -	class_compat_remove_link(mdev_bus_compat_class, parent->dev, NULL);
>>>>>>> +	sysfs_remove_link(mdev_bus_kobj, dev_name(parent->dev));
>>>>>>>  	device_for_each_child(parent->dev, NULL, mdev_device_remove_cb);
>>>>>>>  	parent_remove_sysfs_files(parent);
>>>>>>>  	up_write(&parent->unreg_sem);
>>>>>>> @@ -251,8 +251,8 @@ static int __init mdev_init(void)
>>>>>>>  	if (ret)
>>>>>>>  		return ret;
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> -	mdev_bus_compat_class = class_compat_register("mdev_bus");
>>>>>>> -	if (!mdev_bus_compat_class) {
>>>>>>> +	mdev_bus_kobj = class_pseudo_register("mdev_bus");  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this isn't a class, so let's not fake it please.  Let's fix this
>>>>>> properly, odds are all of this code can just be removed entirely, right?
>>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>> After I removed class_compat from i2c core, I asked Alex basically the
>>>>> same thing: whether class_compat support can be removed from vfio/mdev too.
>>>>>
>>>>> His reply:
>>>>> I'm afraid we have active userspace tools dependent on
>>>>> /sys/class/mdev_bus currently, libvirt for one.  We link mdev parent
>>>>> devices here and I believe it's the only way for userspace to find
>>>>> those parent devices registered for creating mdev devices.  If there's a
>>>>> desire to remove class_compat, we might need to add some mdev
>>>>> infrastructure to register the class ourselves to maintain the parent
>>>>> links.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's my understanding that /sys/class/mdev_bus has nothing in common
>>>>> with an actual class, it's just a container for devices which at least
>>>>> partially belong to other classes. And there's user space tools depending
>>>>> on this structure.  
>>>>
>>>> That's odd, when this was added, why was it added this way?  The
>>>> class_compat stuff is for when classes move around, yet this was always
>>>> done in this way?
>>>>
>>>> And what tools use this symlink today that can't be updated?
>>>
>>> It's been this way for 8 years, so it's hard to remember exact
>>> motivation for using this mechanism, whether we just didn't look hard
>>> enough at the class_compat or it didn't pass by the right set of eyes.
>>> Yes, it's always been this way for the mdev_bus class.
>>>
>>> The intention here is much like other classes, that we have a node in
>>> sysfs where we can find devices that provide a common feature, in this
>>> case providing support for creating and managing vfio mediated devices
>>> (mdevs).  The perhaps unique part of this use case is that these devices
>>> aren't strictly mdev providers, they might also belong to another class
>>> and the mdev aspect of their behavior might be dynamically added after
>>> the device itself is added.
>>>
>>> I've done some testing with this series and it does indeed seem to
>>> maintain compatibility with existing userspace tools, mdevctl and
>>> libvirt.  We can update these tools, but then we get into the breaking
>>
>> Greg, is this testing, done by Alex, sufficient for you to take the series?
> 
> Were devices actually removed from the system and all worked well?
> 
>>> userspace and deprecation period questions, where we may further delay
>>> removal of class_compat.  Also if we were to re-implement this, is there
>>> a better mechanism than proposed here within the class hierarchy, or
>>> would you recommend a non-class approach?  Thanks,
>>>
>>
>> You have /sys/bus/mdev. Couldn't we create a directory here which holds
>> the links to the devices in question?
> 
> Links to devices is not what class links are for, so why is this in
> /sys/class/ at all?
> 
Complementing what Alex just wrote:
It's my understanding that it's in /sys/class only, because back then, when
the mdev driver was written, class_compat seemed to be a convenient way
to achieve what was required: providing a generic container in sysfs for
arbitrary device links. So it wasn't an informed decision to use /sys/class.


>> Then user space would simply have to switch from /sys/class/mdev_bus
>> to /sys/bus/mdev/<new_dir>.
> 
> I think you are confusing what /sys/class/ is for here, if you have
> devices on a "bus" then they need to be in /sys/bus/   class has nothing
> to do with that.
> 
> So can we just drop the /sys/class/ mistake entirely?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-06 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-03 20:08 [PATCH 0/3] driver core: class: remove class_compat code Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] driver core: class: add class_pseudo_register Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04  9:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 17:04     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04 18:17       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 19:35         ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] vfio/mdev: inline needed class_compat functionality Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04  9:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 17:01     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04 18:16       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 19:30         ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-06  7:35           ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-06  7:42             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-06 16:37               ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-07  8:38                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-07 10:06                   ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-07 10:23                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-12  4:42                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 18:12                       ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-12 18:21                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-12 18:39                           ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-13 14:53                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-06 17:05               ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2024-12-04 19:35         ` Heiner Kallweit
2025-01-10 14:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-13 22:09     ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-03 20:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] driver core: class: remove class_compat code Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-12  4:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Christoph Hellwig

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