From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Farkas Levente Subject: Re: can we hope a stable version in the near future? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:49:24 +0100 Message-ID: <491811B4.6040700@lfarkas.org> References: <4917525D.709@lfarkas.org> <49180D1D.9000409@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: KVM To: Avi Kivity Return-path: Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.185]:24877 "EHLO fk-out-0910.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754416AbYKJKtb (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:49:31 -0500 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 18so3211743fkq.5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:49:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49180D1D.9000409@redhat.com> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Avi Kivity wrote: > Farkas Levente wrote: >> hi, >> i've to repeat myself old mail again: >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.kvm.devel/18095 >> >> i see there is a lots of development in kvm lately. there are many >> people working on many thing, but most of them improvements and >> extensions. and those who read the list can see there are many basic >> problems too. rhel/centos-5 host can't boot mandrake-10 guest, fedora >> latest kernel guest, rhel/centos-5 x86-64 guest crash during boot, >> 100%cpu usage, rhes-4 can't boot etc. >> so imho it'd be useful to release a kvm version which fix all known bug >> and may be start a new branch for development asap. >> how long do you plan to keep kvm in a development stage without a stable >> release? >> i know it'll be a bit complicated to maintain 4 different tree (devel, >> stable x kernel, userspace), but it'd be very useful from the user's >> point of view. >> > > There is the maint/ series on git.kernel.org. It doesn't have formal > releases though. do you plan any formal release? and it'd be nice to see the relationship between the current devel tree and the stable tree to eg. last stable 0.5 current devel 0.78. on the other hand the real question are you plan to somehow stabilize any of the following release in the near future? in the last 1.5 years we wait for this. or you currently not recommend and not plan to use kvm in production? it's also an option but would be useful to know. in this case we (and probably many others) switch to xen, virtualbox, vmware or anything else as a virtualization platform. in short do you have any public roadmap? the term stable means for me: - can use on different host (at least the latest rhel (if you're at rh), fedora, ubuntu) - can use different guests (rhel, fedora, ubuntu, mandrake, windows 2000, xp, vista) - can use mixed i386, x86_64 host guest, - can use smp ie. more vcpu if the host has more core. where "use" means: install, boot, run without kernel crash and none noticeable performance drop (10-20% less relative to the host is acceptable but 50% is not). -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"