From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Farkas Levente Subject: Re: can we hope a stable version in the near future? Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: <49233C85.6070807@lfarkas.org> References: <4917525D.709@lfarkas.org> <49180D1D.9000409@redhat.com> <491811B4.6040700@lfarkas.org> <492046F3.900@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: KVM , Uri Lublin To: Avi Kivity Return-path: Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]:10757 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750868AbYKRWHH (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:07:07 -0500 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 39so355348ugf.37 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:07:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <492046F3.900@redhat.com> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Avi Kivity wrote: > Farkas Levente wrote: >>> There is the maint/ series on git.kernel.org. It doesn't have formal >>> releases though. >>> >> >> do you plan any formal release? and it'd be nice to see the relationship >> between the current devel tree and the stable tree to eg. last stable >> 0.5 current devel 0.78. >> > > The key to a formal release is a formal test suite. We've been building > one (for a long while) but it isn't in production yet. > > The plan is for it to be open so people can add their favorite guests, > to ensure they will not regress. the question is not when but what happened with those bugs which cause test fail? the problem currently not that we don't know problems, but there are many known bugs just the reason and the solution not known. so test suite can't help too much here (may be find more bugs). >> on the other hand the real question are you plan to somehow stabilize >> any of the following release in the near future? in the last 1.5 years >> we wait for this. or you currently not recommend and not plan to use kvm >> in production? it's also an option but would be useful to know. in this >> case we (and probably many others) switch to xen, virtualbox, vmware or >> anything else as a virtualization platform. >> > > kvm is used in production on several products. Just not the kvm-nn > releases I make. The production versions of kvm are backed by testing, > which makes all the difference. Slapping a 'stable' label over a > release doesn't make it so. there are many open source project which has stable and devel versions:-) actually almost all projects have a stable release along with the devel version. but kvm has not any in the last few years, that's why i think it's high time to stabilize 'a' version ie. frozen feature list and fix all known bugs. -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"