From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:46:37 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <493D334D.6050004@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228741409.3609.32.camel@blaa>
Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 18:52 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 06 December 2008 01:37:06 Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>>
>>> Another example of a lack of an explicit dependency causing problems is
>>> Fedora's mkinitrd having this hack:
>>>
>>> if echo $PWD | grep -q /virtio-pci/ ; then
>>> findmodule virtio_pci
>>> fi
>>>
>>> which basically says "if this is a virtio device, don't forget to
>>> include virtio_pci in the initrd too!". Now, mkinitrd is full of hacks,
>>> but this is a particularly unusual one.
>>>
>> Um, I don't know what this does, sorry.
>>
>> I have no idea how Fedora chooses what to put in an initrd; I can't think
>> of a sensible way of deciding what goes in and what doesn't other than
>> lists and heuristics.
>>
>
> Fedora's mkinitrd creates an initrd suitable to boot the machine you run
> mkinitrd on, rather than creating an initrd suitable to boot any
> machine.
>
> So, it goes "ah, / is mounted from /dev/vda, we need to include
> virtio_blk and it's dependencies". It does that in a generic way that
> works well for most setups:
>
> 1) Find the device name (e.g. vda) below /sys/block
>
> 2) Follow the 'device' link to e.g. /sys/devices/virtio-pci/virtio1
>
> 3) Find the module need for this through either 'modalias' or the
> 'driver/module' symlink
>
> 4) Use modprobe to list any dependencies of that module
>
> Clearly, virtio-pci won't be pulled in by any of this so we've added a
> hack to say "oh, it's a virtio device, let's include virtio_pci just in
> case".
>
> It's not even the case that mkinitrd needs to know how to include the
> the module for the bus, because in our case that's virtio.ko ... we've
> pretty effectively hidden the the bus *implementation* from userspace.
>
> I don't think this is worth wasting too much time fixing, that's why I'm
> thinking we should just make virtio_pci built-in by default with
> CONFIG_KVM_GUEST.
>
What if we have multiple virtio transports? Is there a way that we can
expose the relationship with virtio-blk and virtio-pci in sysfs? We
have a struct device for the PCI device, it's just a matter of making
the link visible.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>> But there really is no explicit dependency between virtio modules and
>> virtio_pci. There just is for kvm/x86 at the moment, since that is how
>> they use virtio. Running over another bus is certainly possible,
>> though may never happen for x86 (happens today for s390).
>>
>
> Right, and in the case of both kvm/s390 and lguest the bus
> implementation is built-in, not a module.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-08 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-04 12:44 [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-04 22:46 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 9:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2008-12-05 13:17 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 14:55 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 15:25 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 15:26 ` Greg KH
2008-12-05 18:30 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:46 ` Greg KH
2008-12-08 11:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] virtio: add PCI device release() function Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 11:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] virtio: do not statically allocate root device Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-08 14:58 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:33 ` [PATCH] virtio: make PCI devices take a virtio_pci module ref Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-05 17:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 18:36 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-05 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-07 8:30 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-07 13:36 ` Jiri Slaby
2008-12-05 0:13 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-05 15:07 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-07 8:22 ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-08 13:03 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-08 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-09 16:41 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-09 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-09 18:16 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-10 9:49 ` Mark McLoughlin
2008-12-10 12:02 ` Kay Sievers
2008-12-09 22:25 ` Jesse Barnes
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