From: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
To: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: why guests show "Clocksource tsc unstable" on bootup?
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:14:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BCFF4D.3080906@msgid.tls.msk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49BCFD43.9010604@wpkg.org>
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> Avi Kivity schrieb:
>> Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
>>> Why do my guests show "Clocksource tsc unstable" on bootup?
The same happens here as well.
>> Linux expects the tsc to be monotonic and to have a 1:1 correspondence
>> with real time, which isn't easy to achieve with virtualization.
>
> But the clocksource is kvm-clock, so why does the guest probe tsc at all?
>
>
>>> dmesg shows that kvm-clock was set as the primary cpu clock.
>>> Yet a bit later kernel says "Clocksource tsc unstable".
>>>
>>> Is it something to worry about, or perhaps calculating tsc is hardcoded?
>>> And as such, will be always checked?
>>> Or, is it host CPU related?
>>>
>>> [ 0.000000] kvm-clock: cpu 0, msr 0:3baf81, boot clock
>>> [ 0.000000] kvm-clock: cpu 0, msr 0:1208f81, primary cpu clock
>>> [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: root=/dev/vda1 ro quiet
>>> clocksource=kvm-clock
>>> [ 1.253602] rtc_cmos 00:01: setting system clock to 2009-03-09
>>> 11:41:30 UTC (1236598890)
>>> [ 41.500623] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -153498948 ns)
>>>
>>
>> What host cpu and kvm version are you using?
>
> I pasted a part of /proc/cpuinfo below.
> I saw these with kvm-83 and kvm-84 (with cpufreq disabled, as it perhaps
> can matter).
>
> processor : 3
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 15
> model : 65
> model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212
> stepping : 2
> cpu MHz : 2000.000
> cache size : 1024 KB
> physical id : 1
> siblings : 2
> core id : 1
> cpu cores : 2
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext
> fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy
> svm extapic cr8_legacy
> bogomips : 3993.03
> TLB size : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc
Here, it shows unstable tsc on this machine since kvm-72 or even earlier,
up to current kvm-84.
The CPU on the host is this one (4 cores):
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 2
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) 9750 Quad-Core Processor
stepping : 3
cpu MHz : 2400.000
cache size : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 3
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 3
initial apicid : 3
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good pni monitor cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs
bogomips : 4812.60
TLB size : 1024 4K pages
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
Host kernel is 2.6.28.8 amd64, guest is running 2.6.27.19 i686,
kvm-84 userspace, kvm modules are from host kernel.
Here how it looks like from the guest:
# dmesg | egrep -i 'clock|tsc|time'
kvm-clock: cpu 0, msr 0:3cb001, boot clock
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xb008
kvm-clock: cpu 0, msr 0:1409001, primary cpu clock
TSC: Unable to calibrate against PIT
TSC: using PMTIMER reference calibration
Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 4800.87 BogoMIPS (lpj=24004390)
..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=0 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
Machine check exception polling timer started.
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac
Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -69824578 ns)
# cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource
kvm-clock acpi_pm jiffies tsc
Thanks!
/mjt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-15 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-09 12:01 why guests show "Clocksource tsc unstable" on bootup? Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-03-15 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-15 13:06 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-03-15 13:14 ` Michael Tokarev [this message]
2009-03-15 13:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-15 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
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