From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Gregory Haskins Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 09:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: <49D4BF70.1060301@novell.com> References: <20090331184057.28333.77287.stgit@dev.haskins.net> <87ab71monw.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <49D35825.3050001@novell.com> <20090401132340.GT11935@one.firstfloor.org> <49D37805.1060301@novell.com> <20090401170103.GU11935@one.firstfloor.org> <49D3B64F.6070703@codemonkey.ws> <49D3D7EE.4080202@novell.com> <49D46089.5040204@redhat.com> <49D497A1.4090900@novell.com> <49D4A4EB.8020105@redhat.com> <49D4AE0C.3000604@novell.com> <49D4B2C0.5060906@redhat.com> <49D4B594.6080703@novell.com> <49D4B8B4.4020003@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC6D61C5F3BF095EB829F9CB0" Cc: Anthony Liguori , Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, agraf@suse.de, pmullaney@novell.com, pmorreale@novell.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org To: Avi Kivity Return-path: Received: from victor.provo.novell.com ([137.65.250.26]:47669 "EHLO victor.provo.novell.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753979AbZDBNen (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:34:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <49D4B8B4.4020003@redhat.com> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC6D61C5F3BF095EB829F9CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi Kivity wrote: > Gregory Haskins wrote: >> Avi Kivity wrote: >> =20 >>> My 'prohibitively expensive' is true only if you exit every packet. >>> >>> >>> =20 >> >> Understood, but yet you need to do this if you want something like iSC= SI >> READ transactions to have as low-latency as possible. >> =20 > > Dunno, two microseconds is too much? The wire imposes much more. > No, but thats not what we are talking about. You said signaling on every packet is prohibitively expensive. I am saying signaling on every packet is required for decent latency. So is it prohibitively expensive or not? I think most would agree that adding 2us is not bad, but so far that is an unproven theory that the IO path in question only adds 2us. And we are not just looking at the rate at which we can enter and exit the guest...we need the whole path...from the PIO kick to the dev_xmit() on the egress hardware, to the ingress and rx-injection. This includes any and all penalties associated with the path, even if they are imposed by something like the design of tun-tap. Right now its way way way worse than 2us. In fact, at my last reading this was more like 3060us (3125-65). So shorten that 3125 to 67 (while maintaining line-rate) and I will be impressed. Heck, shorten it to 80us and I will be impressed. -Greg --------------enigC6D61C5F3BF095EB829F9CB0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknUv3AACgkQlOSOBdgZUxmmXQCfcMMtqq+f4ZP5WDwmQB94CDZI TlUAnjttWnvHOZLgQS8wByMSW7j7YQwP =HX9p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC6D61C5F3BF095EB829F9CB0--