From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 22:02:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0481C2.3070306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090508153320.GB8522@amt.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 08:43:40AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
>> The problem is the exit time in of itself isnt all that interesting to
>> me. What I am interested in measuring is how long it takes KVM to
>> process the request and realize that I want to execute function "X".
>> Ultimately that is what matters in terms of execution latency and is
>> thus the more interesting data. I think the exit time is possibly an
>> interesting 5th data point, but its more of a side-bar IMO. In any
>> case, I suspect that both exits will be approximately the same at the
>> VT/SVM level.
>>
>> OTOH: If there is a patch out there to improve KVMs code (say
>> specifically the PIO handling logic), that is fair-game here and we
>> should benchmark it. For instance, if you have ideas on ways to improve
>> the find_pio_dev performance, etc....
>>
>
> <guess mode on>
>
> One easy thing to try is to cache the last successful lookup on a
> pointer, to improve patterns where there's "device locality" (like
> nullio test).
>
We should do that everywhere, memory slots, pio slots, etc. Or even
keep statistics on accesses and sort by that.
> <guess mode off>
>
>
I'd leave it on if I were you.
>> One item may be to replace the kvm->lock on the bus scan with an RCU
>> or something.... (though PIOs are very frequent and the constant
>> re-entry to an an RCU read-side CS may effectively cause a perpetual
>> grace-period and may be too prohibitive). CC'ing pmck.
>>
>
> Yes, locking improvements are needed there badly (think for eg the cache
> bouncing of kvm->lock _and_ bouncing of kvm->slots_lock on 4-way SMP
> guests).
>
There's no reason for kvm->lock on pio. We should push the locking to
devices.
I'm going to rename slots_lock as
slots_lock_please_reimplement_me_using_rcu, this keeps coming up.
>> FWIW: the PIOoHCs were about 140ns slower than pure HC, so some of that
>> 140 can possibly be recouped. I currently suspect the lock acquisition
>> in the iobus-scan is the bulk of that time, but that is admittedly a
>> guess. The remaining 200-250ns is elsewhere in the PIO decode.
>>
>
> vmcs_read is significantly expensive
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg00840.html,
> likely that my measurements were foobar, Avi mentioned 50 cycles for
> vmcs_write).
>
IIRC vmcs reads are pretty fast, and are being improved.
> See for eg how vmx.c reads VM_EXIT_INTR_INFO twice on every exit.
>
Ugh.
> Also this one looks pretty bad for a 32-bit PAE guest (and you can
> get away with the unconditional GUEST_CR3 read too).
>
> /* Access CR3 don't cause VMExit in paging mode, so we need
> * to sync with guest real CR3. */
> if (enable_ept && is_paging(vcpu)) {
> vcpu->arch.cr3 = vmcs_readl(GUEST_CR3);
> ept_load_pdptrs(vcpu);
> }
>
>
We should use an accessor here just like with registers and segment
registers.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-08 19:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-05 13:24 [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] add " Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 17:03 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-06 13:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 15:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86: " Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] kvm: add pv_cpu_ops.hypercall support to the guest Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 13:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 14:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 14:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 23:17 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 3:51 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 7:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 13:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 16:07 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 17:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:37 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 20:07 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 20:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 11:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:07 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 19:12 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:21 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 19:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:25 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 20:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 21:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 21:57 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 22:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-08 22:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-11 13:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-11 13:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:50 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 23:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-07 23:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 3:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 7:55 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <20090508103253.GC3011@amt.cnet>
2009-05-08 11:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 14:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 14:45 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 15:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 19:56 ` David S. Ahern
2009-05-08 20:01 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 23:23 ` David S. Ahern
2009-05-09 8:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-09 11:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-10 4:27 ` David S. Ahern
2009-05-10 5:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-10 4:24 ` David S. Ahern
2009-05-08 3:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 7:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 11:09 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20090508104228.GD3011@amt.cnet>
2009-05-08 12:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 15:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 19:02 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-05-08 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-08 19:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 14:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 19:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 16:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-07 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-09 12:01 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-10 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 13:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 16:35 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 17:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 17:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 18:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 17:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-13 10:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-13 14:45 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 16:44 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 19:24 ` PowerPC page faults Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 22:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-12 5:46 ` Liu Yu-B13201
2009-05-12 14:50 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-06 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 16:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 8:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 15:20 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 19:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 19:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 19:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-10 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
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