From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] virtio_blk: add cache flush command
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:38:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A085471.40809@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090511154046.GA4226@lst.de>
Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:51:40AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> What typically triggers a flush operation?
>>
>
> fsync.
>
>
>> I would assume an fsync would, but would a flush happen after every
>> O_DIRECT write?
>>
>
> Right now it doesn't, but it probably should.
>
So then with cache=writeback, fsync behaves itself but O_DIRECT writes
do not.
This seems like a really undesirable combination of behavior from a
guest integrity point of view. It makes me wonder if it's really
useful. I think that any serious user would have to continue using
cache=writethrough. Is there a path that would ever allow someone who
cares about their data to use cache=writeback instead of cache=writethrough?
>> If the backend implementation of T_FLUSH is fsync, I would think that
>> this would result in rather poor performance for O_DIRECT operations in
>> the guest.
>>
>
> Right now it's fsync. By the time I'll submit the backend change it
> will still be fsync, but at least called from the posix-aio-compat
> thread pool.
>
fsync is pretty crappy on ext3 default configs. I'm concerned that this
could be considered a DoS by a malicious guest. If it sat in a T_FLUSH
loop, it would potentially bring your system to a crawl, no?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-11 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-11 8:39 [PATCH, RFC] virtio_blk: add cache flush command Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-11 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 15:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-11 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 16:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-11 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 18:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 18:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 12:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-12 7:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-12 7:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-12 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 12:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-11 16:38 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-05-12 7:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-12 13:54 ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-12 14:18 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-05-13 1:52 ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-18 12:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
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