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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] x2apic implementation for kvm
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:49:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A1A77A0.7040207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905251759.08421.sheng@linux.intel.com>

Sheng Yang wrote:
> On Monday 25 May 2009 17:22:34 Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Sheng Yang wrote:
>>     
>>> I think that means the PV interface for lapic. And yes, we can support it
>>> follow MS's interface, but x2apic still seems another story as you
>>> noted... I still don't think support x2apic here would bring us more
>>> benefits.
>>>       
>> x2apic has the following benefit:
>>
>> - msr exits are faster than mmio (no page table walk, emulation)
>>     
>
> Need PV(at least part of). I don't think Hyper-V considered this, and not sure 
> the community's aptitude.
>   

Hyper-V does define MSRs for local apic access, as far as I can tell 
they're identical to x2apic except for the msr index.

>> - potential to support large guests once we add interrupt remapping
>>     
>
> Then it can be added before we have it. Compared to the workload, x2apic is 
> not the problem, interrupt remapping/VT-d is. 
>   

I'd like to have the benefit sooner.  x2apic provides two user-visible 
benefits: performance and large guests.  I don't want performance to 
wait for large guests.

>> - shared code with the Hyper-V paravirt interface
>>     
>
> So I think the key thing are ICR related(and seems no data available 
> currently). Compare the benefit of ICR improve(can it improved in another way? 
> Does Hyper-V interface has related things?), and the workload of x2apic 
> virtualization as well as guest OS support, well, I don't know, but not 
> optimistic

x2apic, without interrupt remapping, is fairly simple.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


      reply	other threads:[~2009-05-25 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-21 17:37 [PATCH 0/1] x2apic implementation for kvm Gleb Natapov
2009-05-21 17:37 ` [PATCH 1/1] x2apic interface to lapic Gleb Natapov
2009-05-31 12:44   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-21 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] Advertise X2APIC support Gleb Natapov
2009-05-24  6:46   ` Dor Laor
2009-05-24  6:48     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-08 12:13   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-25  6:08 ` [PATCH 0/1] x2apic implementation for kvm Sheng Yang
2009-05-25  6:13   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-05-25  6:30     ` Sheng Yang
2009-05-25  6:38       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-05-25  6:48         ` Sheng Yang
2009-05-25  6:57           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-05-25  9:07           ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-25  9:19             ` Sheng Yang
2009-05-25  9:22               ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-25  9:40                 ` Dong, Eddie
2009-05-25  9:50                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-25  9:59                 ` Sheng Yang
2009-05-25 10:49                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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