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From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	mtosatti@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [KVM PATCH v4 3/3] kvm: add iosignalfd support
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:45:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A1DA653.4050109@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243446484.4852.13.camel@blaa>

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Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 13:40 -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>   
>> Mark McLoughlin wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 15:11 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Multiple cookies on the same address are required by virtio.  You can't 
>>>> mux since the data doesn't go anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Virtio can survive by checking all rings on a notify, and we can later 
>>>> add a mechanism that has a distinct address for each ring, but let's see 
>>>> if we can cope with multiple cookies.  Mark?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Trying to catch up, but you're talking about replacing virtio-pci
>>> QUEUE_NOTIFY handling with iosignalfd ?
>>>
>>> For a perfect replacement, what you really need is to be able to
>>> register multiple cookies per address range, but only have them trigger
>>> if the written data matches a provided value.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Hmm..thats an interesting idea.  To date, the "cookie" has really been
>> for identifying the proper range selected for deassignment.  I never
>> thought of using it as an actual trigger value at run-time.
>>
>>     
>>> If the data is lost, virtio has no way of knowing which queue is being
>>> notified, so we either end up with per-device, rather than per-queue,
>>> notifications (probably not too bad for net, at least) or a different
>>> notify address per queue (limiting the number of queues per device).
>>>   
>>>       
>> The addr-per-queue is how I was envisioning it, but the trigger value
>> concept hadn't occurred to me.  I could make this an option during
>> assignment (e.g. "COOKIE" flag means only trigger on writes of the
>> provided cookie, otherwise trigger on any write).  Sound good?
>>     
>
> Ah, I'd been thinking of the trigger data being provided separately to
> the cookie.
>   

Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem.  Its probably cleaner, too.  Perhaps
I can simplify things and make the trigger width fixed (say, always
32bit) just so I dont have to support 8,16,32 and 64 variants.

> The virtio ABI is fixed, so we couldn't e.g. have the guest use a cookie
> to identify a queue - it's just going to continue using a per-device
> queue number. 

Actually, I was originally thinking this would be exposed as a virtio
FEATURE bit anyway, so there were no backwards-compat constraints.  That
said, we can possibly make it work in a backwards compat way, too. 
IIRC, today virtio does a PIO cycle to a specific register with the
queue-id when it wants to signal guest->host, right?  What is the width
of the write?


> So, if the cookie was also the trigger, we'd need an
> eventfd per device.
>   

I'm having trouble parsing this one.  The cookie namespace is controlled
by the userspace component that owns the corresponding IO address, so
there's no reason you can't make "queue-id = 0" use cookie = 0, or
whatever.  That said, I still think a separation of the cookie and
trigger as suggested above is a good idea, so its probably moot to
discuss this point further.

-Greg



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-26 19:15 [KVM PATCH v4 0/3] iosignalfd Gregory Haskins
2009-05-26 19:15 ` [KVM PATCH v4 1/3] eventfd: export eventfd interfaces for module use Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27  8:57   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 11:53     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-26 19:15 ` [KVM PATCH v4 2/3] kvm: make io_bus interface more robust Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27  8:54   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 11:26     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-26 19:15 ` [KVM PATCH v4 3/3] kvm: add iosignalfd support Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27  9:03   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 11:47     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27 12:11       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 12:54         ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27 17:25         ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-27 17:40           ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-27 17:48             ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-27 20:45               ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-05-28  9:09                 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-28 12:12                   ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-31  9:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-01 12:14                       ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-03 22:04               ` Gregory Haskins
2009-06-04 13:20                 ` Mark McLoughlin

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