From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: mburns@redhat.com
Cc: Michael Goldish <mgoldish@redhat.com>, KVM List <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] KVM-Autotest: basic parallel test execution
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:02:36 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A238B1C.4010501@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A146666.3010505@redhat.com>
Mike Burns wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> Michael Goldish wrote:
>>
>>> Drawbacks:
>>> - requires some initial work to be done by the user -- the user has
>>> to define exactly where each test should run
>>>
>>>
>> For me, this is a major drawback. I'd really like a fire-and-forget
>> solution. If I have to spend my own time getting this to work, vs.
>> waiting longer for the tests to run on their own, I'll just be lazy.
>>
> It seems like this is adding another layer of user interaction without
> really getting that much additional functionality. An administrator of
> kvm-autotest is going to know enough to be able to create control and
> kvm_tests.cfg files that can mimic this already and then just create 2
> jobs in the server to run on different hosts.
>
I'm an administrator of kvm-autotest and I have no idea how to create
control and kvm_tests.cfg files.
Also, I'm a lot more interested in spreading the load on my one host
rather than on fictional other hosts. And for that we need a scheduler,
since different tests need differing amounts of memory and cores.
>>> - test sets need to be modified when tests or hosts are
>>> added/removed, to include/exclude them
>>>
>>>
>> This is also annoying -- and likely to stop me from updating.
>>
> Host definitions already happen on the server and it seems like it would
> be confusing to have to make sure that the host you choose when setting
> up a test is setup correctly in your config files.
>
Host setups should be separated from test setup, so that tests can be
continuously updated while the host setup is kept static.
>> I'd really like this to be automated, just specify a set of machines
>> and have the jobs distributed. Furthermore, it is very important to
>> utilize the existing hosts better. A 4-core 4GB server can easily run
>> a 2x smp 1GB guest and 2 other uniprocessor 1GB guests. It's wasteful
>> to add more servers when the existing servers are underutilized.
>>
>>
> Overall, the way I envisioned parallel test execution was having
> multiple tests running on a single machine. It seems that the server
> already provides most (if not all) the functionality needed to spread
> tests across multiple machines. I really think this is putting too much
> on the user for very small gains in functionality.
>
As a user, I disagree. I can't calculate what resources are needed by
each test and make sure they all fit on my host.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
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Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2009-05-17 14:49 ` [RFC] KVM-Autotest: basic parallel test execution Michael Goldish
2009-05-17 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 20:21 ` Mike Burns
2009-06-01 8:02 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-05-20 20:52 ` Ryan Harper
2009-05-20 21:12 ` Mike Burns
2009-05-21 11:51 ` Ryan Harper
2009-05-24 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
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2009-05-20 21:32 ` Michael Goldish
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2009-05-20 23:15 ` Michael Goldish
2009-05-21 12:11 ` Ryan Harper
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