* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file [not found] <1858948435.756611248178170717.JavaMail.root@zmail05.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> @ 2009-07-21 12:33 ` Michael Goldish 2009-07-21 14:05 ` Ryan Harper 2009-07-21 14:37 ` David Huff 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Goldish @ 2009-07-21 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues Cc: KVM mailing list, David Huff, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: > Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration file, > having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, > let's > say, using the web frontend. > > So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, > and > make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would be > a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. > > Lucas What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in the control file as a python string? A few comments: 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are required. 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather easily using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently used. Instead of the short form: list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() we can use: cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) # parse any one-liner like this: cfg.parse_string("only nightly") # parse anything the parser understands like this: cfg.parse_string(""" install: steps = blah foo = bar only qcow2.*Windows """) # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative cfg.parse_string(""" variants: - foo: only scsi - bar: only WinVista.32 variants: - 1: - 2: """) # we can also parse additional files: cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") # finally, get the resulting list list = cfg.get_list() 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control and config completely separated (what we have today), and having them both in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets (nightly, weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test set (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. Alternatively we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a single test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define several test sets in the control file, and select one of them. We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the test sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them (I think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want to use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only nightly" in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: cfg.parse_string(""" only full # define the test set below (no need for variants) only RHEL only qcow2 only autotest.dbench """) 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, that contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME ... The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will be parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. The cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with kvm_tests.cfg). Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file local_prefs.cfg, and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so maybe this isn't necessary. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Michael ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file 2009-07-21 12:33 ` [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file Michael Goldish @ 2009-07-21 14:05 ` Ryan Harper 2009-07-23 12:16 ` [Autotest] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues 2009-07-21 14:37 ` David Huff 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ryan Harper @ 2009-07-21 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Goldish Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues, KVM mailing list, David Huff, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list * Michael Goldish <mgoldish@redhat.com> [2009-07-21 07:38]: > > ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: > > > Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration file, > > having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, > > let's > > say, using the web frontend. > > > > So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, > > and > > make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would be > > a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. > > > > Lucas > > What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in > the control file as a python string? > > A few comments: > > 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified > from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified > very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are > required. Agreed. In fact, I have a kvm_tests.common file that has all of the guest and parameter definitions, and then I have separate "test" files that are appended to the common file to create a kvm_tests.cfg for the specific tests I want to run. > > 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather easily > using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently used. > Instead of the short form: > > list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() > > we can use: > > cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) > > # parse any one-liner like this: > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > > # parse anything the parser understands like this: > cfg.parse_string(""" > install: > steps = blah > foo = bar > only qcow2.*Windows > """) > > # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative > cfg.parse_string(""" > variants: > - foo: > only scsi > - bar: > only WinVista.32 > variants: > - 1: > - 2: > """) > > # we can also parse additional files: > cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") > > # finally, get the resulting list > list = cfg.get_list() > > 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control and > config completely separated (what we have today), and having them both > in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets (nightly, > weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test set > (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. Alternatively > we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a single > test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define several > test sets in the control file, and select one of them. Yeah, this models what I'm doing today; common config file, and then a separate test selector mechanism. I'd actually prefer to not have to touch the control file at all since it already has a bunch of logic and other info in it; and just be able to specify my test selector file. I think your above examples imply we can do this with the code today: cfg = kvm_config.config(kvm_tests_common) # parse any one-liner like this: cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the test > sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them (I > think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want to > use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only nightly" > in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: > cfg.parse_string(""" > only full > # define the test set below (no need for variants) > only RHEL > only qcow2 > only autotest.dbench > """) Yep. > > 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, that > contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: > WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > ... > The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will be > parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the > control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the > long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. The > cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test > environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with kvm_tests.cfg). Yep, I like that as well. > > Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file local_prefs.cfg, > and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific > changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will > contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure > there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so maybe > this isn't necessary. > > > Let me know what you think. I think have a common kvm_tests.cfg file that is automatically loaded along with the additional one-liner/custom test selector mechanism go a long way to providing what Lucas was asking for. -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh@us.ibm.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Autotest] [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file 2009-07-21 14:05 ` Ryan Harper @ 2009-07-23 12:16 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues @ 2009-07-23 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ryan Harper; +Cc: Michael Goldish, Autotest mailing list, KVM mailing list On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Ryan Harper<ryanh@us.ibm.com> wrote: > * Michael Goldish <mgoldish@redhat.com> [2009-07-21 07:38]: >> >> ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> > Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration file, >> > having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, >> > let's >> > say, using the web frontend. >> > >> > So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, >> > and >> > make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would be >> > a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. >> > >> > Lucas >> >> What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in >> the control file as a python string? >> >> A few comments: >> >> 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified >> from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified >> very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are >> required. > > Agreed. In fact, I have a kvm_tests.common file that has all of the > guest and parameter definitions, and then I have separate "test" files > that are appended to the common file to create a kvm_tests.cfg for the > specific tests I want to run. > >> >> 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather easily >> using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently used. >> Instead of the short form: >> >> list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() >> >> we can use: >> >> cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) >> >> # parse any one-liner like this: >> cfg.parse_string("only nightly") >> >> # parse anything the parser understands like this: >> cfg.parse_string(""" >> install: >> steps = blah >> foo = bar >> only qcow2.*Windows >> """) >> >> # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative >> cfg.parse_string(""" >> variants: >> - foo: >> only scsi >> - bar: >> only WinVista.32 >> variants: >> - 1: >> - 2: >> """) >> >> # we can also parse additional files: >> cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") >> >> # finally, get the resulting list >> list = cfg.get_list() >> >> 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control and >> config completely separated (what we have today), and having them both >> in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets (nightly, >> weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test set >> (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. Alternatively >> we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a single >> test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define several >> test sets in the control file, and select one of them. > > Yeah, this models what I'm doing today; common config file, and then a > separate test selector mechanism. I'd actually prefer to not have to > touch the control file at all since it already has a bunch of logic and > other info in it; and just be able to specify my test selector file. Not editing the control file at all kinda subverts the original idea of having the control as 'the' description of the test job. This is one of the problems I was seeing with this approach. And when I mean 'refactor', I mean that the logic contained inside the control file could be refactored to be made simpler. That said, I don't think it is a *huge* problem right now, just something that needs to be addressed at some point in time. > I think your above examples imply we can do this with the code today: > > cfg = kvm_config.config(kvm_tests_common) > > # parse any one-liner like this: > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > >> We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the test >> sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them (I >> think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want to >> use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only nightly" >> in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: >> cfg.parse_string(""" >> only full >> # define the test set below (no need for variants) >> only RHEL >> only qcow2 >> only autotest.dbench >> """) > > Yep. > >> >> 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, that >> contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: >> WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME >> WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME >> Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME >> ... >> The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will be >> parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the >> control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the >> long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. The >> cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test >> environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with kvm_tests.cfg). > > Yep, I like that as well. > >> >> Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file local_prefs.cfg, >> and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific >> changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will >> contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure >> there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so maybe >> this isn't necessary. >> >> >> Let me know what you think. > > I think have a common kvm_tests.cfg file that is automatically loaded > along with the additional one-liner/custom test selector mechanism go a > long way to providing what Lucas was asking for. Yes, that would be a valid approach. Thanks for sharing your ideas, Ryan. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file 2009-07-21 12:33 ` [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file Michael Goldish 2009-07-21 14:05 ` Ryan Harper @ 2009-07-21 14:37 ` David Huff 2009-07-23 12:35 ` [Autotest] " Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: David Huff @ 2009-07-21 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Goldish Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues, KVM mailing list, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list Michael Goldish wrote: > ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: > >> Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration file, >> having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, >> let's >> say, using the web frontend. >> >> So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, >> and >> make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would be >> a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. >> >> Lucas > > What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in > the control file as a python string? > > A few comments: > > 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified > from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified > very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are > required. > > 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather easily > using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently used. > Instead of the short form: > > list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() > > we can use: > > cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) > > # parse any one-liner like this: > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > > # parse anything the parser understands like this: > cfg.parse_string(""" > install: > steps = blah > foo = bar > only qcow2.*Windows > """) > > # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative > cfg.parse_string(""" > variants: > - foo: > only scsi > - bar: > only WinVista.32 > variants: > - 1: > - 2: > """) > > # we can also parse additional files: > cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") > > # finally, get the resulting list > list = cfg.get_list() > > 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control and > config completely separated (what we have today), and having them both > in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets (nightly, > weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test set > (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. Alternatively > we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a single > test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define several > test sets in the control file, and select one of them. > We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the test > sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them (I > think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want to > use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only nightly" > in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: > cfg.parse_string(""" > only full > # define the test set below (no need for variants) > only RHEL > only qcow2 > only autotest.dbench > """) > > 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, that > contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: > WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > ... > The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will be > parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the > control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the > long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. The > cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test > environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with kvm_tests.cfg). > > Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file local_prefs.cfg, > and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific > changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will > contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure > there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so maybe > this isn't necessary. > > > Let me know what you think. Michael all very good comments, I specifically like the windows config file idea. The way I always envisioned it was something like this...... The config file specifies the whole test matrix, ie all variants that you could run each test on, ie all os's, all archs, all disk types, all cpu/mem configurations. The control file would be more of a test specific config file, setting any local or environmental vars for each test, and like Michael said can override "stuff" fromt he main confg file... I also really like the idea of creating a generic kvm_test that all kvm tests would inherent from, ie. $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test.py All helper classes ie. kvm.py, kvm_utils.py, kvm_config.py, and even the config file itself could then go into $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/test_utils/ or even maybe something like $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test_utils/ All kvm specific tests would inherent form the generic kvm_test, and then go into either $AUTOTEST/client/tests/ or $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/ directorys, each having their own sub dir like the current autotest tests. In this dir there would be a control file specific for each test, that can override the full test matrix descried inthe the generic kvm_tests.cfg, as well as any additional file required by the test. Anyway just some of my thoughts, I know its great in theory however may have some implementation short falls, like interdependence between tests and such... 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* Re: [Autotest] [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file 2009-07-21 14:37 ` David Huff @ 2009-07-23 12:35 ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues @ 2009-07-23 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Huff; +Cc: Michael Goldish, Autotest mailing list, KVM mailing list On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM, David Huff<dhuff@redhat.com> wrote: > Michael all very good comments, I specifically like the windows config > file idea. > > The way I always envisioned it was something like this...... > > The config file specifies the whole test matrix, ie all variants that > you could run each test on, ie all os's, all archs, all disk types, all > cpu/mem configurations. > > The control file would be more of a test specific config file, setting > any local or environmental vars for each test, and like Michael said can > override "stuff" fromt he main confg file... It's not to say that separating the test matrix definition from the test job logic is a bad idea organization-wise, however like I pointed out on Michael's and Ryan's comments, it sort of defeats the original autotest design goals (that was pointed out by Martin later on this thread, I'll get to it later). > I also really like the idea of creating a generic kvm_test that all kvm > tests would inherent from, ie. $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test.py > > All helper classes ie. kvm.py, kvm_utils.py, kvm_config.py, and even the > config file itself could then go into > $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/test_utils/ or even maybe something like > $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test_utils/ Yes, moving the large amount of infrastructure developed for the kvm test into the autotest library namespace is something I also want to do at some point in time. Good point. > All kvm specific tests would inherent form the generic kvm_test, and > then go into either $AUTOTEST/client/tests/ or > $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/ directorys, each having their own sub dir > like the current autotest tests. In this dir there would be a control > file specific for each test, that can override the full test matrix > descried inthe the generic kvm_tests.cfg, as well as any additional file > required by the test. Yes, moving tests out of the kvm_test realm is good, since it keeps things more manageable on the kvm test itself. However, we need to take into account non-linux guests, where we can't just yet use raw autotest. > Anyway just some of my thoughts, I know its great in theory however may > have some implementation short falls, like interdependence between tests > and such... Yes, at some point, I want to take more advantage of server based testing. We would have a server control file that: 1) A test that sets up a test client (A physical box running linux) to be a virtualization host (KvmHost) and creates guests. The result of this test must be a number of KvmGuests, that can be later used to perform tests on it. 2) Just instantiate autotest inside the KvmGuests and run tests on them using the server side control API. Easier said than done, because we will deal with windows guests, test dependency and controlling hypervisor parameters. So I am not saying that this is something we need to jump in right now. My main concerns right now are: 1) Make sure the infrastructure we've got now works really well 2) Grow the amount of tests we have so we can increase KVM testing coverage Working out architectural changes would come later, at a more appropriate time. Refactoring the control file and the test config file is one of the improvements we can make on the short term using the client model, so that's why I started the discussion. Thanks for your thoughts on that David. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file [not found] <1101191314.774351248188660794.JavaMail.root@zmail05.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> @ 2009-07-21 15:19 ` Michael Goldish 2009-07-21 16:46 ` David Huff 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Goldish @ 2009-07-21 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Huff Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues, KVM mailing list, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list ----- "David Huff" <dhuff@redhat.com> wrote: > Michael Goldish wrote: > > ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: > > > >> Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration > file, > >> having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, > >> let's > >> say, using the web frontend. > >> > >> So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, > >> and > >> make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would > be > >> a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. > >> > >> Lucas > > > > What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in > > the control file as a python string? > > > > A few comments: > > > > 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified > > from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified > > very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are > > required. > > > > 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather > easily > > using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently > used. > > Instead of the short form: > > > > list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() > > > > we can use: > > > > cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) > > > > # parse any one-liner like this: > > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > > > > # parse anything the parser understands like this: > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > install: > > steps = blah > > foo = bar > > only qcow2.*Windows > > """) > > > > # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > variants: > > - foo: > > only scsi > > - bar: > > only WinVista.32 > > variants: > > - 1: > > - 2: > > """) > > > > # we can also parse additional files: > > cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") > > > > # finally, get the resulting list > > list = cfg.get_list() > > > > 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control > and > > config completely separated (what we have today), and having them > both > > in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets > (nightly, > > weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test > set > > (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. > Alternatively > > we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a > single > > test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define > several > > test sets in the control file, and select one of them. > > We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the > test > > sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them > (I > > think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want > to > > use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only > nightly" > > in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > only full > > # define the test set below (no need for variants) > > only RHEL > > only qcow2 > > only autotest.dbench > > """) > > > > 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, > that > > contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: > > WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > ... > > The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will > be > > parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the > > control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the > > long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. > The > > cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test > > environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with > kvm_tests.cfg). > > > > Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file > local_prefs.cfg, > > and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific > > changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will > > contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure > > there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so > maybe > > this isn't necessary. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > Michael all very good comments, I specifically like the windows > config > file idea. > > The way I always envisioned it was something like this...... > > The config file specifies the whole test matrix, ie all variants that > you could run each test on, ie all os's, all archs, all disk types, > all > cpu/mem configurations. > > The control file would be more of a test specific config file, > setting > any local or environmental vars for each test, and like Michael said > can > override "stuff" fromt he main confg file... > > I also really like the idea of creating a generic kvm_test that all > kvm > tests would inherent from, ie. > $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test.py > > All helper classes ie. kvm.py, kvm_utils.py, kvm_config.py, and even > the > config file itself could then go into > $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/test_utils/ or even maybe something like > $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test_utils/ > > All kvm specific tests would inherent form the generic kvm_test, and > then go into either $AUTOTEST/client/tests/ or > $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/ directorys, each having their own sub dir > like the current autotest tests. In this dir there would be a > control > file specific for each test, that can override the full test matrix > descried inthe the generic kvm_tests.cfg, as well as any additional > file > required by the test. > > Anyway just some of my thoughts, I know its great in theory however > may > have some implementation short falls, like interdependence between > tests > and such... > > > Comments.. I think I understand your suggestion, but let me make sure: - If there's a global config file that is shared by all tests, I suppose it'll run all the tests one by one, right? - Where will test sets be defined -- in the global config file? - If each individual test inherits from the global config file, it'll also inherit dictionaries describing other tests, right? e.g. the configuration of the boot test must explicitly state "only boot", or it'll run install, migration and autotest as well? - If you run the control file of a specific test, what happens -- does that specific test run in many configurations (many guests, cpu options, network, ide/scsi), or does it run just once with a single configuration? I suppose the "normal" behavior would be to run in many configurations, but I'm not sure what your intention was. - Will the global config file look like the config files we have today? I think this should be possible to implement, but I haven't given it much thought so I'm not sure. The more interesting question is whether it's a good idea. What are the advantages over the current approach? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file 2009-07-21 15:19 ` Michael Goldish @ 2009-07-21 16:46 ` David Huff 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: David Huff @ 2009-07-21 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Goldish Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues, KVM mailing list, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list Michael Goldish wrote: > ----- "David Huff" <dhuff@redhat.com> wrote: >> The way I always envisioned it was something like this...... >> >> The config file specifies the whole test matrix, ie all variants that >> you could run each test on, ie all os's, all archs, all disk types, >> all >> cpu/mem configurations. >> >> The control file would be more of a test specific config file, >> setting >> any local or environmental vars for each test, and like Michael said >> can >> override "stuff" fromt he main confg file... >> >> I also really like the idea of creating a generic kvm_test that all >> kvm >> tests would inherent from, ie. >> $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test.py >> >> All helper classes ie. kvm.py, kvm_utils.py, kvm_config.py, and even >> the >> config file itself could then go into >> $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/test_utils/ or even maybe something like >> $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test_utils/ >> >> All kvm specific tests would inherent form the generic kvm_test, and >> then go into either $AUTOTEST/client/tests/ or >> $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/ directorys, each having their own sub dir >> like the current autotest tests. In this dir there would be a >> control >> file specific for each test, that can override the full test matrix >> descried inthe the generic kvm_tests.cfg, as well as any additional >> file >> required by the test. >> >> Anyway just some of my thoughts, I know its great in theory however >> may >> have some implementation short falls, like interdependence between >> tests >> and such... >> >> >> Comments.. > > I think I understand your suggestion, but let me make sure: > > - If there's a global config file that is shared by all tests, I suppose > it'll run all the tests one by one, right? > > - Where will test sets be defined -- in the global config file? > > - If each individual test inherits from the global config file, it'll > also inherit dictionaries describing other tests, right? > e.g. the configuration of the boot test must explicitly state "only boot", > or it'll run install, migration and autotest as well? > > - If you run the control file of a specific test, what happens -- does > that specific test run in many configurations (many guests, cpu options, > network, ide/scsi), or does it run just once with a single configuration? > I suppose the "normal" behavior would be to run in many configurations, but > I'm not sure what your intention was. > > - Will the global config file look like the config files we have today? > > I think this should be possible to implement, but I haven't given it much > thought so I'm not sure. The more interesting question is whether it's a > good idea. What are the advantages over the current approach? The advantages I see are: 1. it more closely follows the current autotest structure/layout, 2. solves the problem of separating each test out of the ever growing kvm_test.py and gives a sub dir of each test for better structure (something we have been talking about) and 3. addresses the config vs. control file ? that this thread originally brought up. I think the issue is in how the "kvm test" is viewed. Is it one test that gets run against several configurations, or is it several different tests with different configurations?. I have been looking at it as the later however I do also see it the other way as well. So maybe the solution is a little different than my first thought.... - all kvm tests are in $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/ - all kvm tests inherent form $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test.py - common functionality is in $AUTOTEST/client/common_lib/kvm_test_utils/ - does *not* include generic kvm_test.cfg - we keep the $AUTOTEST/client/kvm/ test dir which defines the test runs and houses kvm_test.cfg file and a master control. - we could then define a couple sample test runs: full, quick, and others or implement something like your kvm_tests.common file that other test runs can build on. So in the end its pretty similar to what we currently have except that the AUTOTEST/client/kvm/ dir only defines the test runs, all common functionality and the tests them selves are moved out. The major advantages I see, aside from the three mention above, is that it allows us to simplify the kvm_tests.cfg file. We can move the test specific config to each test dir, $AUTOTEST/client/kvm_tests/install/install.cfg which includes all the install test parameters. Which combined with splitting up the config file in $AUTOTEST/client/kvm/ would make the config file shorter and easier to read. Again not sure if all this is worth it however some of my thoughts on how to improve the current status. -D ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file [not found] <401664338.769081248186226103.JavaMail.root@zmail05.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> @ 2009-07-21 14:28 ` Michael Goldish 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Goldish @ 2009-07-21 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ryan Harper Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues, KVM mailing list, David Huff, Mike Burns, Autotest mailing list ----- "Ryan Harper" <ryanh@us.ibm.com> wrote: > * Michael Goldish <mgoldish@redhat.com> [2009-07-21 07:38]: > > > > ----- "Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues" <lmr@redhat.com> wrote: > > > > > Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration > file, > > > having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, > > > let's > > > say, using the web frontend. > > > > > > So it might be good to merge the control file and the config > file, > > > and > > > make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would > be > > > a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. > > > > > > Lucas > > > > What exactly do you mean by merge? Embed the entire config file in > > the control file as a python string? > > > > A few comments: > > > > 1. The bulk of the config file usually doesn't need to be modified > > from the web frontend, IMO. It actually doesn't need to be modified > > very often -- once everything is defined, only minor changes are > > required. > > Agreed. In fact, I have a kvm_tests.common file that has all of the > guest and parameter definitions, and then I have separate "test" > files > that are appended to the common file to create a kvm_tests.cfg for > the > specific tests I want to run. > > > > > 2. Changes to the config can be made in the control file rather > easily > > using kvm_config methods that are implemented but not currently > used. > > Instead of the short form: > > > > list = kvm_config.config(filename).get_list() > > > > we can use: > > > > cfg = kvm_config.config(filename) > > > > # parse any one-liner like this: > > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") > > > > # parse anything the parser understands like this: > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > install: > > steps = blah > > foo = bar > > only qcow2.*Windows > > """) > > > > # we can parse several times and the effect is cumulative > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > variants: > > - foo: > > only scsi > > - bar: > > only WinVista.32 > > variants: > > - 1: > > - 2: > > """) > > > > # we can also parse additional files: > > cfg.parse_file("windows_cdkeys.cfg") > > > > # finally, get the resulting list > > list = cfg.get_list() > > > > 3. We may want to consider something in between having the control > and > > config completely separated (what we have today), and having them > both > > in the same file. For example, we can define the test sets > (nightly, > > weekly, fc8_quick, custom) in the config file, and select the test > set > > (e.g. "only nightly") in the control file by convention. > Alternatively > > we can omit the test sets from the config file, and just define a > single > > test set (the one we'll be using) in the control file, or define > several > > test sets in the control file, and select one of them. > > Yeah, this models what I'm doing today; common config file, and then > a > separate test selector mechanism. I'd actually prefer to not have to > touch the control file at all since it already has a bunch of logic > and > other info in it; and just be able to specify my test selector file. If you want to avoid touching the control file altogether, you can put an 'include' statement at the end of kvm_tests.cfg: include my_custom_file.cfg ('include' jumps to another file, parses it, and then returns to the parent file.) Then you can make any modifications you want in my_custom_file.cfg, and never touch the control file or kvm_tests.cfg. Make sure the included file exists, otherwise the parser will raise an exception. So in total there are 3 ways to modify the config outside kvm_tests.cfg: - cfg.parse_string() in the control file (parses any string the parser understands) - cfg.parse_file() in the control file (parses a file) - 'include' in kvm_tests.cfg (parses a file) > I think your above examples imply we can do this with the code today: > > cfg = kvm_config.config(kvm_tests_common) > > # parse any one-liner like this: > cfg.parse_string("only nightly") Yes, this should certainly work, but make sure to also do list = cfg.get_list() when you're done parsing. > > We can actually do both things at the same time, by defining the > test > > sets in the config file, and defining a "full" test set among them > (I > > think it's already there), which doesn't modify anything. If we want > to > > use a standard test set from the config file, we can do "only > nightly" > > in the control, and if we want to use a custom test set, we can do: > > cfg.parse_string(""" > > only full > > # define the test set below (no need for variants) > > only RHEL > > only qcow2 > > only autotest.dbench > > """) > > Yep. > > > > > 4. It could be a good idea to make a "windows_cdkeys.cfg" file, > that > > contains mainly single-line exceptions, such as: > > WinXP.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > WinXP.64: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > Win2003.32: cdkey = REPLACE_ME > > ... > > The real cdkeys should be entered by the user. Then the file will > be > > parsed after kvm_tests.cfg, using the parse_file() method (in the > > control). This way the user won't have to enter the cdkeys into the > > long config file every time it gets replaced by a newer version. > The > > cdkeys file won't be replaced because it's specific to the test > > environment (we'll only supply a sample like we do with > kvm_tests.cfg). > > Yep, I like that as well. > > > > > Maybe we can generalize this idea and call the file > local_prefs.cfg, > > and decide that the file should contain any environment-specific > > changes that the user wants to make to the config. The file will > > contain mainly exceptions (single or multi-line). But I'm not sure > > there are many environment specific things other than cdkeys, so > maybe > > this isn't necessary. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > I think have a common kvm_tests.cfg file that is automatically loaded > along with the additional one-liner/custom test selector mechanism go > a long way to providing what Lucas was asking for. > > > -- > Ryan Harper > Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center > IBM Corp., Austin, Tx > ryanh@us.ibm.com > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [RFC] KVM test: Refactoring the kvm control file and the config file @ 2009-07-21 11:34 Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues @ 2009-07-21 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Autotest mailing list Cc: KVM mailing list, Michael Goldish, David Huff, Mike Burns Currently we have our kvm test control file and configuration file, having them split like this makes it harder for users to edit it, let's say, using the web frontend. So it might be good to merge the control file and the config file, and make a refactor on the control file code. Do you think this would be a valid approach? Any comments are welcome. Lucas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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