From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
Cc: alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: vbus design points: shm and shm-signals
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:02:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A92E3B1.5080002@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8E7D32.8040209@gmail.com>
Gregory Haskins wrote:
> Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
>> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>
>>> We all love faster code and better management interfaces and tons
>>> of your prior patches got accepted by Avi. This time you didnt even
>>> _try_ to improve virtio.
>>>
>> Im sorry, but you are mistaken:
>>
>> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0904.2/02443.html
>>
>>
>
> BTW: One point that I forgot to point out in this most recent thread
> that I am particularly proud of here is the design of the vbus
> shared-memory model. Despite some claims to the contrary; not only is
> it possible to improve virtio with vbus (as evident by the patch
> referenced above)...I specifically designed vbus with virtio
> considerations in mind from the start! In fact, the design is conducive
> to accelerating a variety of other models as well. Read on for details.
>
> Vbus was designed it to be _agnostic_ to the shm algorithm in general.
> This allows you to, of course, run ring algorithms (such as virtqueues,
> or IOQs), but really any other designs as well, such as shared-tables, etc.
>
> A guest driver sees the following interface:
>
> struct vbus_device_proxy_ops {
> int (*open)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, int version, int flags);
> int (*close)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, int flags);
> int (*shm)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, int id, int prio,
> void *ptr, size_t len,
> struct shm_signal_desc *sigdesc, struct shm_signal **signal,
> int flags);
> int (*call)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev, u32 func,
> void *data, size_t len, int flags);
> void (*release)(struct vbus_device_proxy *dev);
> };
>
> note the ops->shm() method. This allows the driver to register some
> arbitrary pointer (ptr, len) with the host, optionally embedding a
> shm_signal_desc object in the memory. If "sigdesc" is non-null, the
> connector will allocate and return a fully formed shm_signal object in
> **signal.
>
Fundamentally, how is this different than the virtio->add_buf concept?
virtio provides a mechanism to register scatter/gather lists, associate
a handle with them, and provides a mechanism for retrieving notification
that the buffer has been processed.
vbus provides a mechanism to register a single buffer with an integer
handle, priority, and a signaling mechanism.
So virtio provides builtin support for scatter/gathers whereas vbus
models priority. But fundamentally, they seem like almost identical
concepts.
If we added priority to virtio->add_buf, would it be equivalent in your
mind functionally speaking?
What does one do with priority, btw?
Is there something I'm overlooking?
Regards,
Anthony Liguroi
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[not found] ` <20090814154308.26116.46980.stgit@dev.haskins.net>
2009-08-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Ingo Molnar
2009-08-15 19:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-16 7:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-17 14:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 14:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 14:58 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-17 15:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-17 20:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 8:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 15:19 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 16:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 15:53 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-18 16:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 17:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-18 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 18:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-18 18:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 20:59 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-18 21:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 22:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 0:44 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-19 5:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 0:38 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-19 5:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 15:28 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-19 15:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 16:29 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-19 16:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 21:05 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-08-20 9:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2009-08-20 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 20:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 21:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-18 20:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 20:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 23:24 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-08-18 1:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-18 7:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 8:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 13:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 13:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 15:51 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 16:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 4:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 5:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 13:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-21 10:55 ` vbus design points: shm and shm-signals Gregory Haskins
2009-08-24 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-08-24 20:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-24 21:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-24 23:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-25 0:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-18 16:47 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-19 5:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 5:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 6:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 7:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 11:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 11:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 11:52 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 14:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-20 12:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-16 8:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-17 14:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 14:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-17 15:09 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 15:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 19:35 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 15:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-17 13:02 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 14:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 15:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-17 15:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-17 19:33 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 8:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 14:46 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 16:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 6:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 7:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 18:23 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2009-08-19 18:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 19:19 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2009-08-19 19:34 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2009-08-19 20:12 ` configfs/sysfs Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 20:48 ` configfs/sysfs Ingo Molnar
2009-08-19 20:53 ` configfs/sysfs Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 21:19 ` configfs/sysfs Nicholas A. Bellinger
2009-08-19 22:15 ` configfs/sysfs Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 22:16 ` configfs/sysfs Joel Becker
2009-08-19 23:48 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] configfs/sysfs Alex Tsariounov
2009-08-19 23:54 ` configfs/sysfs Nicholas A. Bellinger
2009-08-20 6:09 ` configfs/sysfs Avi Kivity
2009-08-20 22:48 ` configfs/sysfs Joel Becker
2009-08-21 4:14 ` configfs/sysfs Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 18:26 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] vbus: add a "vbus-proxy" bus model for vbus_driver objects Gregory Haskins
2009-08-19 20:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 20:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-20 17:25 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2009-08-20 20:58 ` Caitlin Bestler
2009-08-18 18:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-18 19:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-19 5:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 10:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 10:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 11:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 11:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-18 11:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-18 15:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-18 16:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-17 15:13 ` Avi Kivity
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