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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "Zhai, Edwin" <edwin.zhai@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RESEND] KVM:VMX: Add support for Pause-Loop Exiting
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:46:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC239E5.7070709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090927145338.GF29634@8bytes.org>

On 09/27/2009 04:53 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>
>    
>> Depends.  If it's a global yield(), yes.  If it's a local yield() that
>> doesn't rebalance the runqueues we might be left with the spinning task
>> re-running.
>>      
> Only one runable task on each cpu is unlikely in a situation of high
> vcpu overcommit (where pause filtering matters).
>
>    

I think even 2:1 overcommit can degrade performance terribly.

>> Also, if yield means "give up the reminder of our timeslice", then we
>> potentially end up sleeping a much longer random amount of time.  If we
>> yield to another vcpu in the same guest we might not care, but if we
>> yield to some other guest we're seriously penalizing ourselves.
>>      
> I agree that a directed yield with possible rebalance would be good to
> have, but this is very intrusive to the scheduler code and I think we
> should at least try if this simpler approach already gives us good
> results.
>    

No objection to trying.  I'd like to see hrtimer sleep as a baseline 
since it doesn't require any core changes, and we can play with it as we 
add more core infrastructure:

- not sleeping if all vcpus are running
- true yield() instead of sleep
- directed yield
- cross cpu directed yield

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


      reply	other threads:[~2009-09-29 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-23 14:04 [PATCH] [RESEND] KVM:VMX: Add support for Pause-Loop Exiting Zhai, Edwin
2009-09-23 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25  1:11   ` Zhai, Edwin
2009-09-27  8:28     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-28  9:33       ` Zhai, Edwin
2009-09-29 12:05         ` Zhai, Edwin
2009-09-29 13:34         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  1:01           ` Zhai, Edwin
2009-09-30  6:28             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 16:22             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-10-02 18:28               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-10-09 10:03                 ` Zhai, Edwin
2009-10-11 15:34                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 19:13                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-25 20:43   ` Joerg Roedel
2009-09-27  8:31     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 13:46       ` Joerg Roedel
2009-09-27 13:47         ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 14:07           ` Joerg Roedel
2009-09-27 14:18             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 14:53               ` Joerg Roedel
2009-09-29 16:46                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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