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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/24] compatfd is included before, and it is compiled unconditionally
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:44:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC4C030.5000004@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC4BB4E.2000906@codemonkey.ws>

On 10/01/2009 04:23 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Juan Quintela wrote:
>> Discused with Anthony about it.  signalfd is complicated for qemu
>> upstream (too difficult to use properly),
>
> It's not an issue of being difficult.
>
> To emulate signalfd, we need to create a thread that writes to a pipe 
> from a signal handler.  The problem is that a write() can return a 
> partial result and following the partial result, we can end up getting 
> an EAGAIN.  We have no way to queue signals beyond that point and we 
> have no sane way to deal with partial writes.

pipe buffers are multiples of of the signalfd size.  As long as we read 
and write signalfd-sized blocks, we won't get partial writes.  It's true 
that depending on an implementation detail is bad practice, but this is 
emulation code, and if helps simplifying everything else, I think it's 
fine to use it.

hmm, pipe(7) says writes smaller than the pipe buffer size are atomic:

        O_NONBLOCK enabled, n <= PIPE_BUF
               If there is room to write n bytes to the pipe, then 
write(2) succeeds immediately, writing all n bytes;
               otherwise write(2) fails, with errno set to EAGAIN.

so it seems this practice has been blessed by posix.

> Instead, how we do this in upstream QEMU is that we install a signal 
> handler and write one byte to the fd.  If we get EAGAIN, that's fine 
> because all we care about is that at least one byte exists in the fd's 
> buffer.  This requires that we use an fd-per-signal which means we end 
> up with a different model than signalfd.
>
> The reason to use signalfd over what we do in upstream QEMU is that 
> signalfd can allow us to mask the signals which means less EINTRs.  I 
> don't think that's a huge advantage and the inability to do backwards 
> compatibility in a sane way means that emulated signalfd is not workable.

signalfd is several microseconds faster than signals + pipes.  Do we 
have so much performance we can throw some of it away?

> The same is generally true for eventfd.

eventfd emulation will also never get partial writes.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-01 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-18 11:41 [PATCH 00/24] configure and Makefile cleanup Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 01/24] Don't disable werror unconditionally Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 19:02   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-19 10:13     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-19 11:14       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-19 11:41         ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 02/24] extboot.bin is a generated file Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 03/24] Remove merge artifacts Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 04/24] piix4_dev is not used for pc's Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 19:05   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-18 21:42     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-21  9:10       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-21  9:37         ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-21  9:45           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 05/24] compatfd is included before, and it is compiled unconditionally Juan Quintela
2009-09-22 13:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-22 13:25     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-22 13:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-01 11:58         ` Juan Quintela
2009-10-01 12:05           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-01 14:24             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 14:23           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 14:44             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-10-01 16:50               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 17:00                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 20:48                 ` KVM Support for windows Saksena, Abhishek
2009-10-06 10:51                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 06/24] Use common style for signalfd Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 07/24] One CONFIG_EVENTFD should be enough Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 08/24] Bring ia64 to current arch selection code Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 09/24] Use configure way of enabling kvm Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 10/24] Prin kvm options values as everything else Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 11/24] KVM temp hack not needed anymore Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 12/24] Introduce libs_softmmu to device assignment code Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 13/24] Use compile_prog function in thee missing compilations Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 14/24] Test for libpci, not only for header Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 15/24] Rename USE_KVM_* to CONFIG_KVM_* Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 16/24] Move kvm specific tests after main kvm test Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 17/24] Add kvm-cap-pit command line flags Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 18/24] Add kvm-cap-device-assignment " Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 19/24] Fix compilation without device assignment Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 20/24] Only print kvm options when kvm is enabled Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 19:42   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-18 21:43     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 21/24] __user is not used anywhere in qemu sources Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 22/24] fix mis-merge (we define pkgversion 3 lines above Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 23/24] Get CONFIG_CPU_EMULATION back to life Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 19:54   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-09-18 21:44     ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-21  9:13       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-21  9:36         ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 11:41 ` [PATCH 24/24] Remove build-targets-* rules that are always empty Juan Quintela
2009-09-18 19:57 ` [PATCH 00/24] configure and Makefile cleanup Marcelo Tosatti

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