From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Heads up: More user-unaccessible x86 states?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:18:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC9D608.2000205@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC9B490.5020502@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 10/05/2009 09:43 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/04/2009 09:07 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>
>>>>> btw, instead of adding a new ioctl, perhaps it makes sense to define a
>>>>> new KVM_VCPU_STATE structure that holds all current and future state
>>>>> (with generous reserved space), instead of separating state over a
>>>>> dozen
>>>>> ioctls.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OK, makes sense. With our without lapic state?
>>>>
>>> I'm in two minds. I'm leaning towards including lapic but would welcome
>>> arguments either way.
>>>
>> The lapic is optional and, thus, typically handled in different code
>> modules by user space. QEMU even creates a separate device that holds
>> the state.
>
> avx registers, nested vmx are optional as well.
>
>> I'm not sure user space will benefit from a unified query/set
>> interface with regard to this.
>>
>
> The main benefit is to avoid creating an ioctl each time we find a
> missing bit.
>
>>> Note we have to be careful with timers such as the tsc and lapic timer.
>>> Maybe have a bitmask at the front specifying which elements are active.
>>>
>> ...and the lapic timers are another argument.
>>
>> Regarding TSC, which means MSRs: I tend to include only states into the
>> this meta state which have fixed sizes. Otherwise things will get very
>> hairy. And the GET/SET_MSRS interface is already fairly flexible, the
>> question would be again: What can we gain by unifying?
>>
>
> For MSRs, not much.
>
> Note we can make it work, by storing an offset/length at a fixed
> location and letting userspace point it into the reserved area.
Hmm, pointers... That makes me think of a meta IOCTL like this:
struct kvm_vcpu_state {
int substates;
void __user *substate[0];
};
#define KVM_VCPU_STATE_REGS 0 /* i.e. substate[0] points to kvm_regs */
#define KVM_VCPU_STATE_SREGS 1
#define KVM_VCPU_STATE_LAPIC 2
...
We could easily extend the call with more substates just by defining new
pointer slots. Moreover, user space could define which substates should
be get/set by simply passing NULL or a valid pointer for substate[n] (or
by limiting the substates field).
The only ugliness I see is the missing type safety as we would have to
deal with void pointers to the substate structures here.
Jan
--
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
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2009-10-04 19:07 ` Heads up: More user-unaccessible x86 states? Jan Kiszka
2009-10-05 6:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 7:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-05 8:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 11:18 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-10-05 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-05 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:42 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-05 12:55 ` Avi Kivity
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