From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] KVM: introduce "xinterface" API for external interaction with guests
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:23:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ACB6F0E.4000407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ACB528D.6030408@gmail.com>
On 10/06/2009 04:22 PM, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void
>>>>>> +_kvm_xinterface_release(struct kref *kref)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + struct kvm_xinterface *intf;
>>>>>> + struct module *owner;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + intf = container_of(kref, struct kvm_xinterface, kref);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + owner = intf->owner;
>>>>>> + rmb();
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why rmb?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> the intf->ops->release() line may invalidate the intf pointer, so we
>>>> want to ensure that the read completes before the release() is called.
>>>>
>>>> TBH: I'm not 100% its needed, but I was being conservative.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> rmb()s are only needed if an external agent can issue writes, otherwise
>>> you'd need one after every statement.
>>>
>> I was following lessons learned here:
>>
>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/7/175
>>
>> Perhaps mb() or barrier() are more appropriate than rmb()? I'm CC'ing
>> David Howells in case he has more insight.
>>
> BTW: In case it is not clear, the rationale as I understand it is we
> worry about the case where one cpu reorders the read to be after the
> ->release(), and another cpu might grab the memory that was kfree()'d
> within the ->release() and scribble something else on it before the read
> completes.
>
> I know rmb() typically needs to be paired with wmb() to be correct, so
> you are probably right to say that the rmb() itself is not appropriate.
> This problem in general makes my head hurt, which is why I said I am
> not 100% sure of what is required. As David mentions, perhaps
> "smp_mb()" is more appropriate for this application. I also speculate
> barrier() may be all that we need.
>
barrier() is the operation for a compiler barrier. But it's unneeded
here - unless the compiler can prove that ->release(intf) will not
modify intf->owner it is not allowed to move the access afterwards. An
indirect function call is generally a barrier() since the compiler can't
assume memory has not been modified.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-02 20:19 [PATCH v2 0/4] KVM: xinterface Gregory Haskins
2009-10-02 20:19 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: export use_mm() and unuse_mm() to modules Gregory Haskins
2009-10-02 20:19 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] KVM: introduce "xinterface" API for external interaction with guests Gregory Haskins
2009-10-03 20:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-10-05 23:33 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4AC8780D.1060800@redhat.com>
2009-10-05 23:57 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 13:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 14:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 16:23 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-10-06 17:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 17:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 19:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-07 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-07 12:48 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-08 14:45 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 16:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-06 16:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-06 18:18 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Ira W. Snyder
2009-10-07 5:10 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-02 20:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] KVM: add io services to xinterface Gregory Haskins
2009-10-02 20:19 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] KVM: add scatterlist support " Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4AC878BE.9050309@redhat.com>
2009-10-05 23:57 ` Gregory Haskins
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