From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Sridhar Samudrala <sri@us.ibm.com>,
avi@redhat.com, markmc@redhat.com, ogerlitz@voltaire.com,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:07:11 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B60488F.5020506@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100127092451.GC3476@redhat.com>
On 01/27/2010 03:24 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> I am not sure I agree with this sentiment. The main issue being that
> macvtap doesn't exist on all kernels :).
Neither does vhost ;-) If it were just that as the difference, I'd be
inclined to agree, but macvtap is much better from a security PoV.
>> Not to mention that from a user perspective, raw makes almost no sense
>> as it's an obscure socket protocol family.
>>
>> A user wants to do useful things like bridged networking or direct VF
>> assignment. We should have -net backends that reflect things that make
>> sense to a user.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anthony Liguori
>>
>
> I agree to that. People don't even seem to agree whether it's a raw
> socket or a packet socket :) We need a better name for this option: what
> it really does is rely on an external device to loopback a packet to us,
> so how about -net loopback or -net extbridge?
>
Specifically for VEPA, something like:
-net extbridge,if=eth0
or even
-net vepa,if=eth0
Would be fantastic. I think the best way to achieve this is to
introduce a small helper that gets called and can create a macvtap
device and hand the file descriptor back to qemu :-) A builtin backend
would also be fine since we don't have the helper infrastructure.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-27 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-26 20:40 [PATCH qemu-kvm] Add raw(af_packet) network backend to qemu Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-26 20:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-26 23:19 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 9:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 9:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 9:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 14:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 21:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 22:56 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-28 6:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 16:53 ` Jens Osterkamp
2010-01-28 11:22 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-29 20:52 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-01-27 16:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 17:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 17:54 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 18:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-27 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 8:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-28 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 16:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 17:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-28 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-29 11:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-28 20:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-02-01 15:47 ` Or Gerlitz
2010-01-27 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-26 23:15 ` Sridhar Samudrala
2010-01-27 0:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-27 6:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-01-27 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
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