From: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Nested SVM and migration
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:39:57 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B82B35D.6010206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100221121008.GI20833@8bytes.org>
On 02/21/2010 02:10 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:26:49PM -1000, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>
>> The infrastructure is already there to import / export and migrate MSR
>> settings. MSRs are also 64-bit, and hold "model-specific" settings, so
>> if you don't mind thinking of the nested feature as a model-specific
>> feature of the KVM-SVM CPU, it's even somewhat well defined in terms of
>> the architecture.
>>
> There is a lot of additional state to migrate if the vcpu is running
> nested. To be architecturally correct you need to transfer 6kb of data
> through MSRs only for the msr permission bitmap. The rest comes down to
> the nested intercept masks and some small bits like the global interrupt
> flag and the nested vmcb address. It is doable but I still think its
> complicated to get this right. The simplest approach would be to
> disallow migration when the vcpu is running in guest mode.
>
How is this a lot? The guest may have multiple gigabytes of memory and
potentially terabytes of storage. An additional 4-8k of control state
is not a lot.
>
>> Mostly the problem is figuring out what chunk of MSR space to use.
>>
> And hoping that this MSR space is not used by real hardware in the
> future ;-)
>
There are places in MSR space that can easily be set aside for this, in
fact, I think already are being used by Hyper-V.
And further, even if it is used by real hardware, how does it matter?
These MSRs are to be used by control software to import / export data to
the virtual CPU. When being accessed by hardware virtualization, they
can be re-aliased to any meaning at all, so there is no collision.
Zach
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-22 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-20 19:14 Nested SVM and migration Zachary Amsden
2010-02-20 20:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-20 23:26 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 12:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 13:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4B8137E7.4030001@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20100221144352.GC26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:54 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <4B814C41.7010105@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:56 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 16:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:07 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 15:23 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 20:21 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:07 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:24 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:39 ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2010-02-21 7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 7:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-21 8:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:18 ` Joerg Roedel
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