From: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Nested SVM and migration
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:56:28 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B82B73C.6030600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
On 02/21/2010 05:56 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> On 02/21/2010 04:43 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>
>>> Difficult. We could use an instruction intercept which has no side
>>> effect on guest state (invlpg for example).
>>>
>> Especially as the guest might disable it and BUG() if npt is enabled.
>>
>>
>>> But thats a lot more
>>> dangerous than an INTR intercept. What about PENDING_INTERRUPT? Are
>>> there hypervisors that may get confused getting this intercept without
>>> asking for it?
>>>
>>>
>> That will likely confuse kvm, it means interrupts are not blocked so it
>> is okay to inject one, and if the guest is running with interrupts
>> disabled then the next entry will fail.
>>
> Completly different idea:
>
> 1. Give userspace an ioctl to freeze the complete VM (all vcpus must be
> stopped afterwards)
> 2. The freeze routine does the following:
>
> freeze_vm(...)
> {
> stop_all_vcpus();
> for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> kvm_x86_ops->freeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> }
>
> The module specific freeze_vcpu function can save the nested state
> inside the guests memory (vmcs area for nested-vmx and hsave area for
> nested-svm). When no vcpu is running anymore this is save.
>
> After migration the information is restored from there before any vcpu
> is started again.
>
> unfreeze_vm(...)
> {
> for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> kvm_x86_ops->unfreeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> restart_all_vcpus();
> }
>
This is exactly the ioctl approach, yes?
> In the SVM case this still leaves the problem that the MSR bitmap must
> be read again from guests memory on unfreeze but that is not a real
> problem.
>
This is easily solved by shadowing the MSR bitmap. Too bad we have to
do it, but at least the state isn't hidden in a non-extractable field
inside the processor.
Zach
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-22 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-20 19:14 Nested SVM and migration Zachary Amsden
2010-02-20 20:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-20 23:26 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 12:10 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:41 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 13:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4B8137E7.4030001@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20100221144352.GC26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:54 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <4B814C41.7010105@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:56 ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2010-02-22 16:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 16:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:07 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 15:23 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 20:21 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:07 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:24 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 7:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 7:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-21 8:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:18 ` Joerg Roedel
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