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From: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Nested SVM and migration
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:56:28 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B82B73C.6030600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>

On 02/21/2010 05:56 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 02/21/2010 04:43 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>      
>>> Difficult. We could use an instruction intercept which has no side
>>> effect on guest state (invlpg for example).
>>>        
>> Especially as the guest might disable it and BUG() if npt is enabled.
>>
>>      
>>> But thats a lot more
>>> dangerous than an INTR intercept. What about PENDING_INTERRUPT? Are
>>> there hypervisors that may get confused getting this intercept without
>>> asking for it?
>>>
>>>        
>> That will likely confuse kvm, it means interrupts are not blocked so it
>> is okay to inject one, and if the guest is running with interrupts
>> disabled then the next entry will fail.
>>      
> Completly different idea:
>
> 1. Give userspace an ioctl to freeze the complete VM (all vcpus must be
>     stopped afterwards)
> 2. The freeze routine does the following:
>
> freeze_vm(...)
> {
> 	stop_all_vcpus();
> 	for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> 		kvm_x86_ops->freeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> }
>
> The module specific freeze_vcpu function can save the nested state
> inside the guests memory (vmcs area for nested-vmx and hsave area for
> nested-svm). When no vcpu is running anymore this is save.
>
> After migration the information is restored from there before any vcpu
> is started again.
>
> unfreeze_vm(...)
> {
> 	for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> 		kvm_x86_ops->unfreeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> 	restart_all_vcpus();
> }
>    

This is exactly the ioctl approach, yes?

> In the SVM case this still leaves the problem that the MSR bitmap must
> be read again from guests memory on unfreeze but that is not a real
> problem.
>    

This is easily solved by shadowing the MSR bitmap.  Too bad we have to 
do it, but at least the state isn't hidden in a non-extractable field 
inside the processor.

Zach

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-22 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-20 19:14 Nested SVM and migration Zachary Amsden
2010-02-20 20:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-20 23:26   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 12:10     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:24       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:41         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:54           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 13:09             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 13:14               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <4B8137E7.4030001@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20100221144352.GC26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:54                     ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]                     ` <4B814C41.7010105@redhat.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:56                         ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2010-02-22 16:59                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 16:46               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 15:23               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 20:21                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:42         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:00             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:02               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:11                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:24                     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:39       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21  7:23   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21  7:46     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-21  8:12       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:18     ` Joerg Roedel

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