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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Nikolai K. Bochev" <n.bochev@grandstarco.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	ming m lin <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	sheng yang <sheng.yang@intel.com>,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
	KVM General <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: KVM usability
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:22:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B937065.4020906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100302142939.GA949@elte.hu>

On 03/02/2010 04:29 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> I guess the first step would be to move away from the 'lets support lots of
> crappy virtualization solutions at once, poorly' model, and pick one good
> combo (i'd go for Qemu+KVM) and turn it into a heck of an all-around solution.
> Then all the other combos will catch up as well. (or will wither away)
>    

Should desktop integration be GNOME or KDE based?

IMO this should be addressed via a plugin system so that we can have a 
well integrated single process VM, without choosing one or the other.  
Also, the qemu community doesn't really have serious graphics design 
expertise; best to leave that to people who won't make it a total disaster.

> ( Sidenote: i also looked at the VirtualBox kernel driver. Oh my ... i really
>    shouldnt have! They should migrate to the KVM kernel-side code ASAP ... )
>    

They can't, if they want to continue to support hardware without 
virtualization extensions.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-07  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1267068445.1726.25.camel@localhost>
     [not found] ` <1267089644.12790.74.camel@laptop>
2010-02-26  2:49   ` Enhance perf to support KVM Zhang, Yanmin
2010-02-26  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26  9:53       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 10:35         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 10:47           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:17             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 11:44               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 12:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 12:54                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 13:16                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 13:57                       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-02-26 14:04                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:23                         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-02-26 15:06                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 16:46                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-02 17:12                             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-02 17:20                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-02 17:24                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02 17:17                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 14:17                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 18:33               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-27 10:56                 ` KVM usability Ingo Molnar
2010-02-27 13:30                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-02-27 14:48                   ` Ian Kirk
2010-02-27 15:32                   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-27 17:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:33                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 16:48                       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 17:41                         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-01 18:29                           ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-01 20:56                             ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 21:45                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 22:06                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-02  0:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  0:30                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-02  2:34                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  8:39                                   ` Chris Webb
2010-03-07 18:42                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02 10:30                               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:35                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07  9:56                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-07 10:11                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07 15:14                                   ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-07 18:16                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:01                                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 18:15                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:53                                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2010-03-07 19:05                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-07 18:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01  9:25                     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-01 15:36                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:14                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-01 15:42                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02  1:12                     ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02 10:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-02 13:37                       ` Nikolai K. Bochev
2010-03-02 14:22                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:29                           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-07  9:22                             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-02 14:37                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 14:52                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-02 14:56                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-02 15:13                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-04 20:00                       ` Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues
2010-03-04 20:13                         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-03-04 20:34                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-04 22:23                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-05  7:44                             ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-07 11:25                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-01 21:12                   ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-01 21:59                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02  2:34                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-02  2:36                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 13:32                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:32                             ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-09 14:38                               ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-09 14:50                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:52                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:57                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:11                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 17:27                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 17:30                                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:49                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-09 14:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-02  3:02                       ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-02  8:21                         ` Chris Webb
2010-03-02 14:54                           ` Dustin Kirkland
     [not found]                           ` <428008581.20100302103400@eternallybored.org>
2010-03-07 11:35                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 12:31                               ` High CPU use of -usbdevice tablet (was Re: KVM usability) Chris Webb
2010-04-04 14:25                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2010-04-04 16:58                                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-04 21:03                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-04 21:53                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-04-05  8:22                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-03  2:57                       ` KVM usability Ross Boylan
2010-03-03  8:55                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-03 15:42                           ` Ross Boylan
2010-03-07 14:29                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 11:48             ` Enhance perf to support KVM Peter Zijlstra
2010-02-26 11:53               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 20:17           ` Anthony Liguori

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