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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Moving dirty bitmaps to userspace - Double buffering approach
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:57:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B94F429.9030101@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B94B3D3.2010801@oss.ntt.co.jp>

On 03/08/2010 10:22 AM, Takuya Yoshikawa wrote:
> Hi, I would like to hear your comments about the following plan:
>
>   Moving dirty bitmaps to userspace
>     - Double buffering approach
>
> especially I would be glad if I can hear some advice about how
> to keep the compatibility.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>   Takuya
>
>
> ---
> Overview:
>
> Last time, I submitted a patch
>   "make get dirty log ioctl return the first dirty page's position"
>    http://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg29724.html
> and got some new better ideas from Avi.
>
> As a result, I agreed to try to eliminate the bitmap allocation
> done in the x86 KVM every time when we execute get dirty log by
> using "double buffering" approach.
>
>

[...]

> Although it may be possible to touch the bitmap from the kernel
> side without doing kmap, I think kmapping the bitmap is better.
> So we may use the following functions paying enough attention to
> the preemption control.
>   - get_user_pages()
>   - kmap_atomic()

Although direct access is more difficult (you need to implement 
put_user_bit() or similar) I think it is worthwhile.  
get_user_pages_fast() is fast, but nowhere near as fast as 
put_user_bit() (or set_bit_user()), which can be just two instructions 
in the fast path.

>
> - compatibility issues
>
> What I am facing now are the compatibility issues. We have to
> support both the userspace and kernel side bitmap allocations
> to let the current qemu and KVM work properly.
>
> 1. From the kernel side, we have to care bitmap allocations done in both
> the kvm_vm_ioctl_set_memory_region() and kvm_vm_ioctl_get_dirty_log().

One way to handle this is to call do_mmap() from the kernel, so that now 
the bitmap really lives in user space.  This is a bit ugly but I think 
acceptable.  We already do this for KVM_SET_MEMORY_REGION (which was 
replaced by KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION, which moved allocation to 
userspace).

>
> 2. From the userspace side, we have to check the new api's availability
> and determine which way we use, e.g. by using check extension ioctl.
>
> The most problematic is 1, kernel side. We have to be able to know
> by which way current bitmap allocation is being done using flags or
> something. In the case of set memory region, we have to judge whether
> we allocate a bitmap, and if not we have to register a bitmap later
> by another api: set memory region is not restricted to the dirty log
> issues and need more care than get dirty log.
>
> Are there any good ways to solve this kind of problems?

I believe that do_mmap() will simplify this.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-08 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-08  8:22 [RFC] Moving dirty bitmaps to userspace - Double buffering approach Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-03-08 12:57 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-15  8:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-15  8:49   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-15 10:50     ` Takuya Yoshikawa

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