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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Dustin Kirkland <kirkland@canonical.com>,
	Bernhard Schmidt <berni@birkenwald.de>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-aio usable?
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:28:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B95259F.7060505@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B95091D.4020307@redhat.com>

On 03/08/2010 08:26 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 04:25 PM, Dustin Kirkland wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com>  wrote:
>>> On 03/08/2010 11:48 AM, Bernhard Schmidt wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:10:29AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>> Are there any potential pitfalls?
>>>>> It won't work well unless running on a block device (partition or 
>>>>> LVM).
>>>> What does "work well" mean in this context? Potential dataloss?
>>> No, it becomes synchronous (=extra slow).
>> But for this to happen, the user would have had to consciously enter
>> into the situation by creating/using a non block device,
>> non-pre-allocated backing disk AND specify the aio=native option,
>> correct?
>>
>
> I thought there was some autodetection involved, but perhaps I just 
> imagined it.

There's no autodetection.

linux-aio support in the kernel downgrades to synchronous IO if the 
underlying storage does not support linux-aio.  There is no indication 
to userspace that this has happened.

If this happens, besides having a slow guest, the guest VCPU will be 
starved during the I/O requests potentially resulting in things like 
soft lockups and time drift.

Generally, speaking, linux-aio will work well under the following 
circumstances:

  - cache=off is specified
  - the underlying file system is XFS or you are using a block device

We cannot detect this reliably though so it's really up to the user to 
decide whether to use it.  We're working on improving the linux-aio 
kernel interface though to eliminate this detectability problem after 
which, we can enable it in a more automatic fashion.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori



  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-08 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-08  1:46 linux-aio usable? Bernhard Schmidt
2010-03-08  9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08  9:48   ` Bernhard Schmidt
2010-03-08  9:48     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 14:25       ` Dustin Kirkland
2010-03-08 14:26         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 16:28           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-08 16:36             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 13:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-08 20:11   ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-08 20:19     ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-09  9:08       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09  9:19         ` Michael Tokarev
2010-03-09 10:05           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 14:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-08 21:27   ` Nikola Ciprich
2010-03-08 21:46     ` Brian Jackson
2010-03-09  9:09     ` Avi Kivity

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