From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:48:13 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCA026D.3070309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271356648-5108-2-git-send-email-glommer@redhat.com>
On 04/15/2010 09:37 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> In recent stress tests, it was found that pvclock-based systems
> could seriously warp in smp systems. Using ingo's time-warp-test.c,
> I could trigger a scenario as bad as 1.5mi warps a minute in some systems.
> (to be fair, it wasn't that bad in most of them). Investigating further, I
> found out that such warps were caused by the very offset-based calculation
> pvclock is based on.
>
> This happens even on some machines that report constant_tsc in its tsc flags,
> specially on multi-socket ones.
>
> Two reads of the same kernel timestamp at approx the same time, will likely
> have tsc timestamped in different occasions too. This means the delta we
> calculate is unpredictable at best, and can probably be smaller in a cpu
> that is legitimately reading clock in a forward ocasion.
>
> Some adjustments on the host could make this window less likely to happen,
> but still, it pretty much poses as an intrinsic problem of the mechanism.
>
> A while ago, I though about using a shared variable anyway, to hold clock
> last state, but gave up due to the high contention locking was likely
> to introduce, possibly rendering the thing useless on big machines. I argue,
> however, that locking is not necessary.
>
> We do a read-and-return sequence in pvclock, and between read and return,
> the global value can have changed. However, it can only have changed
> by means of an addition of a positive value. So if we detected that our
> clock timestamp is less than the current global, we know that we need to
> return a higher one, even though it is not exactly the one we compared to.
>
> OTOH, if we detect we're greater than the current time source, we atomically
> replace the value with our new readings. This do causes contention on big
> boxes (but big here means *BIG*), but it seems like a good trade off, since
> it provide us with a time source guaranteed to be stable wrt time warps.
>
> After this patch is applied, I don't see a single warp in time during 5 days
> of execution, in any of the machines I saw them before.
>
>
Please define a cpuid bit that makes this optional. When we eventually
enable it in the future, it will allow a wider range of guests to enjoy it.
>
> +static u64 last_value = 0;
>
Needs to be atomic64_t.
> +
> cycle_t pvclock_clocksource_read(struct pvclock_vcpu_time_info *src)
> {
> struct pvclock_shadow_time shadow;
> unsigned version;
> cycle_t ret, offset;
> + u64 last;
>
>
> + do {
> + last = last_value;
>
Otherwise, this assignment can see a partial update.
> + if (ret< last)
> + return last;
> + } while (unlikely(cmpxchg64(&last_value, last, ret) != ret));
> +
> return ret;
> }
>
>
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-17 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-15 18:37 [PATCH 0/5] pv clock misc fixes Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] change msr numbers for kvmclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] Try using new kvm clock msrs Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] export new cpuid KVM_CAP Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 18:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] add documentation about kvmclock Glauber Costa
2010-04-15 19:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-04-15 20:10 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-17 18:58 ` [PATCH 4/5] export new cpuid KVM_CAP Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:50 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:55 ` [PATCH 3/5] Try using new kvm clock msrs Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:51 ` [PATCH 2/5] change msr numbers for kvmclock Avi Kivity
2010-04-16 20:23 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add a global synchronization point for pvclock Marcelo Tosatti
2010-04-16 20:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-16 21:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-19 10:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:21 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 16:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-20 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 18:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-20 18:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 19:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-21 0:07 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-22 13:11 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-23 1:44 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-23 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 19:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-23 19:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 21:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-23 21:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-23 21:41 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-24 9:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-24 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 16:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-19 14:26 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 16:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-04-19 18:25 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 1:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-04-20 9:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 12:59 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-20 15:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 0:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-21 8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-17 18:48 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-17 18:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 14:32 ` Glauber Costa
2010-04-19 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 18:35 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-20 9:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 0:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-04-21 8:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 10:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-19 10:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-04-19 11:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-25 23:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-10-26 8:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-26 10:49 ` Glauber Costa
2010-10-26 17:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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