From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: KVM call agenda for Apr 27
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:15:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD6E355.1060107@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BD6B12C.1010908@redhat.com>
On 04/27/2010 04:41 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 27.04.2010 11:32, schrieb Dor Laor:
>
>> On 04/27/2010 12:22 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/27/2010 12:08 PM, Dor Laor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/27/2010 11:56 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 04/27/2010 11:48 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO the whole thing is way over engineered:
>>>>>> a) Having another channel into qemu is complicating management
>>>>>> software. Isn't the monitor should be the channel? Otherwise we'll
>>>>>> need to create another QMP (or nbd like Avi suggest) for these
>>>>>> actions. It's extra work for mgmt and they will have hard time to
>>>>>> understand events interleaving of the various channels
>>>>>>
>>>>> block layer plugins allow intercepting all interesting block layer
>>>>> events, not just write-past-a-watermark, and allow actions based on
>>>>> those events. It's a more general solution.
>>>>>
>>>> No problem there, as long as we do try to use the single existing QMP
>>>> with the plugins. Otherwise we'll create QMP2 for the block events in
>>>> a year from now.
>>>>
>>> I don't see how we can interleave messages from the plugin into the qmp
>>> stream without causing confusion.
>>>
>> Those are QMP async events.
>>
>> Since Kevin suggested adding even more events (was is cynical?)
>>
> The part about adding a scripting engine was.
>
> The idea of adding a generic event (one event, not even more!) for a QMP
> query-* result change doesn't sound that bad on second thought, though.
> It's not specific for watermarks and looks less complicated than all the
> plugin, NBD and QMP2 stuff.
>
> It's almost the same as Anthony's polling suggestion (works with query-*
> results from user perspective), just without polling.
>
Is this really necessary other than making people feel less bad about
polling?
How I understand the use case, polling every five seconds would be
completely reasonable in addressing the use-case. It might not be as
sexy as a generic event notification mechanism but not everything can't
be JSON.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Kevin
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-27 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-26 17:26 KVM call agenda for Apr 27 Chris Wright
2010-04-26 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-26 22:12 ` Chris Wright
2010-04-26 22:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 8:14 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 8:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 8:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 9:08 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 9:32 ` Dor Laor
2010-04-27 9:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-04-27 9:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 13:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-27 13:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:38 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-04-27 14:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 13:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:58 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-04-27 14:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 11:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 13:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-04-27 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-04-27 1:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2010-04-27 3:39 ` Aurelien Jarno
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