From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] KVM: inject #UD if instruction emulation fails while vcpu is in cpl==3
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 13:13:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BE2964A.1090906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100506100645.GB24787@redhat.com>
On 05/06/2010 01:06 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 12:15:58PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> On 04/29/2010 02:58 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>
>>> Do not kill VM If instruction emulation fails while vcpu is in
>>> userspace. Inject #UD instead in a hope that guest OS will kill offending
>>> process. Emulation failure is still traced by ftrace point to help
>>> analyze the problem.
>>>
>> Still there's the risk here that a critical failure goes unnoticed.
>> ftrace isn't on at all times.
>>
>>
> Kvm_stat will still show that there was emulation failure, so if strange
> application behaviour is reported kvm_stat output will have hints where
> to look. Next step in analyzing the problem will be enabling emulator
> tracing.
>
We can expect that from a developer or a user subscribed to kvm@. But
what about some random user running virt-manager?
dmesg and kvm_stat will not go up the management stack.
>> We can probably inject a #UD unconditionally and exit to userspace.
>> Userspace would then report the problem to the user and reenter the
>> guest, which would then recover or not.
>>
>>
> By "unconditionally" you mean even if guest is in kernel mode?
Yes.
> There is
> no point in trying to continue after that happens. Instead of getting
> paused VM at exact place where problem happened and easily analyzable we
> will get misbehaved VM with undefined state.
>
True. But the same problem exists with cpl>0 #UD. It may be a critical
driver in userspace (say, video driver).
Also need to think consider nested kernels (which are userspace for this
purpose).
How about default to unconditional #UD and report, and pause if
requested (in userspace)? Usually emulation failures will be 100%
reproducible, so the user can rerun their workload.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-06 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-29 11:58 [PATCH RFC] KVM: inject #UD if instruction emulation fails while vcpu is in cpl==3 Gleb Natapov
2010-05-06 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-06 10:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-06 10:13 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-06 12:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-06 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-06 12:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-06 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
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