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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	seabios@seabios.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] Support for booting from virtio disks
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:22:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BEA5753.1050508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100511123153.GK2504@redhat.com>

On 05/11/2010 03:31 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:19:07AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 05/10/2010 06:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>      
>>> On 05/10/2010 03:11 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>        
>>>> This patch adds native support for booting from virtio disks to Seabios.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Gleb Natapov<gleb@redhat.com>
>>>>          
>>> A related problem that I think we need to think about how we solve
>>> is indicating to Seabios which device we want to boot from
>>>
>>> With your patch, a user can select a virtio device explicitly or
>>> if they use only one virtio device, it will Just Work.
>>>
>>> However, if a user uses IDE and virtio, or a user has multiple
>>> disks, they cannot select a device via -boot.
>>>
>>> Is this something we need to address?  I don't think we'd break
>>> libvirt if we didn't.
>>>        
>> BIOSes traditionally address this by storing the boot order in RTC
>> non-volatile memory, and allow the user to configure the order via a
>> menu.  We could do the same (storing the RTC memory in a small disk
>> image).
>>
>>      
> Real BIOS can do that because it enumerates all bootable devices,
> attach name for each one of them and then asks user to configure
> boot order using names it attached to devices. In our case we
> want to provide boot order on qemu command line before BIOS
> enumerated devices, so qemu should be able to pass enough information
> about boot device so that BIOS can uniquely identify it after it will
> discover all bootable devices. bus/device pair can be such thing.
>    

Having a BIOS menu is also useful, you don't have to drop to the 
management tool, instead you do everything from the console.

>    
>> Alternatively we can seed the order from the command line (-boot
>> id1,id2,id3 where id* are some qdev property attached to disks, this
>> is more flexible than the current syntax I think).
>>
>>      
> The problem is how to communicate this order to Seabios.
>    

Topology (bus/device/lun).

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-12  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-10  8:11 [PATCHv2] Support for booting from virtio disks Gleb Natapov
2010-05-10  8:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-10  8:29   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-10 15:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 15:54   ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-10 15:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-10 16:09       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-13 16:49       ` [SeaBIOS] " Avi Kivity
2010-05-16  8:28         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-11  8:19   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-11  9:04     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-05-11 12:33       ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-11 12:45       ` [SeaBIOS] " Kevin O'Connor
2010-05-11 12:47         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-12  0:44           ` Kevin O'Connor
2010-05-11 12:31     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-12  7:22       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-05-12  7:55         ` Gleb Natapov
2010-05-12 12:57         ` Kevin O'Connor

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