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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Fix accessed bit tracking
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:24:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0DD425.6050400@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C0DAC6C.8090201@cn.fujitsu.com>

On 06/08/2010 05:35 AM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>
>> We can avoid the exchange in most cases, for example if the new spte has
>> the accessed bit set (already in the patch set) or if the page is
>> already marked as accessed, or if we see the old spte has the accessed
>> bit set (so no race can occur).  I'll update the patches to avoid
>> atomics when possible.
>>      
> Umm, the reason that we need atomics here is to avoid vcpu to update spte when we read A bit
> form it, so, perhaps we can use below way to avoid atomics completely:
>
> - set reserved bit in spte
> - get A bit form spte
> - set new spte
>
> the worst case is cause vcpu #PF here, but it doesn't matter since the old mapping is already invalid,
> also need a remote tlb flush later.
>    

To set the reserved bit in the spte, you need an atomic operation (well, 
unless you use a sub-word-acccess to set a reserved bit in the high 32 
bits).

>> I don't think atomics are that expensive, though, ~20 cycles on modern
>> processors?
>>
>>      
> Yes, but atomics are "LOCK" instructions, it can stop multiple cpus runing in parallel.
>    

Only if those cpus are accessing the same word you're accessing.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-08  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-07  7:10 [PATCH v2 0/4] Fix accessed bit tracking Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  7:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] KVM: MMU: Introduce drop_spte() Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  7:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] KVM: MMU: Move accessed/dirty bit checks from rmap_remove() to drop_spte() Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  8:16   ` Lai Jiangshan
2010-06-07  9:01     ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  7:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] KVM: MMU: Atomically check for accessed bit when dropping an spte Avi Kivity
2010-06-08  2:07   ` Xiao Guangrong
2010-06-08  5:51     ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  7:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] KVM: MMU: Don't drop accessed bit while updating " Avi Kivity
2010-06-07  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Fix accessed bit tracking Lai Jiangshan
2010-06-07  9:00   ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-08  2:35     ` Xiao Guangrong
2010-06-08  5:24       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-08  6:53         ` Xiao Guangrong
2010-06-08  7:54           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-08  8:30             ` Xiao Guangrong

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