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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3][RFC] NUMA: add host side pinning
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:42:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C234493.2050408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C2342D1.4090103@amd.com>

On 06/24/2010 02:34 PM, Andre Przywara wrote:
>> Non-anonymous memory doesn't work well with ksm and transparent 
>> hugepages.  Is it possible to use anonymous memory rather than file 
>> backed?
>
> I'd prefer non-file backed, too. But that is how the current huge 
> pages implementation is done. We could use MAP_HUGETLB and declare 
> NUMA _and_ huge pages as 2.6.32+ only. Unfortunately I didn't find an 
> easy way to detect the presence of the MAP_HUGETLB flag. If the kernel 
> does not support it, it seems that mmap silently ignores it and uses 
> 4KB pages instead.

That sucks, unfortunately it is normal practice.  However it is a soft 
failure, everything works just a bit slower.  So it's probably acceptable.

>>> To avoid this I'd like to see the pinning done from within QEMU. I 
>>> am not sure whether calling numactl via system() and friends is OK, 
>>> I'd prefer to run the syscalls directly (like in patch 3/3) and pull 
>>> the necessary options into the -numa pin,... command line. We could 
>>> mimic numactl's syntax here.
>>
>> Definitely not use system(), but IIRC numactl has a library interface?
> Right, that is what I include in patch 3/3 and use. I got the 
> impression Anthony wanted to avoid reimplementing parts of numactl, 
> especially enabling the full flexibility of the command line interface 
> (like specifying nodes, policies and interleaving).
> I want QEMU to use the library and pull the necessary options into the 
> -numa pin,... parsing, even if this means duplicating numactl 
> functionality.
>

I agree with that.  It's a lot easier to use a single tool than to try 
to integrate things yourself, the unix tradition of grep | sort | uniq 
-c | sort -n notwithstanding.  Especially when one of the tools is qemu.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-24 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-23 21:09 [PATCH 0/3][RFC] NUMA: add host side pinning Andre Przywara
2010-06-23 21:09 ` [PATCH 1/3] NUMA: add Linux libnuma detection Andre Przywara
2010-06-23 21:09 ` [PATCH 2/3] NUMA: add parsing of host NUMA pin option Andre Przywara
2010-06-23 21:09 ` [PATCH 3/3] NUMA: realize NUMA memory pinning Andre Przywara
2010-06-23 22:21 ` [PATCH 0/3][RFC] NUMA: add host side pinning Anthony Liguori
2010-06-23 22:29   ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-24 10:58     ` Andre Przywara
2010-06-24 11:12       ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-24 11:34         ` Andre Przywara
2010-06-24 11:42           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-28 16:20             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-28 16:26               ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-29  9:46               ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-25 11:00           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-25 11:06             ` Andre Przywara
2010-06-25 11:37               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-06-28 16:17         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-06-29  9:48           ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-24  6:44   ` Andre Przywara
2010-06-24 13:14   ` Andi Kleen

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